Talk:Ataque de pánico!
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Rename article
[edit]I would like to rename the article to Ataque de Pánico! (Panic Attack!), which is the film's full title on YouTube. Any objections?--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 21:16, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
- Done --♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 15:10, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
- Youtube names don't decide the titles of films, especially not when there are dedicated, designed credits. The parenthesis with the English translation is clearly there for those who don't speak Spanish. Judging by the credits, the title seems to be Ataque de Pánico or maybe AtaquedePánico, with or without the exclamation mark.
- Peter Isotalo 16:09, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
Budget
[edit]Many people have left comments on YouTube questioning whether the film could really have been made for $300. The article gives this figure because it is reliably sourced. Some people have also pointed out that obtaining the clearance to use John Murphy's music would probably have cost more than $300 alone.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 16:37, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
References to other films
[edit]There are references to other films in Ataque de Pánico! These include: The rush down the steps (The Battleship Potemkin), spaceships cross the sky in traffic formation (Metropolis) and the collapse of buildings filmed by handheld cameras (September 11 attacks). These examples could be in the article, but WP:OR issues might intervene.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 16:39, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
- I removed the reference to 9/11 even though I agree that there might be reason to believe that documentary footage of it was the inspiration for some of the scenes. When it comes to references to really old films like Potemkin and Metropolis, it's quite difficult to ascertain whether they've inspired scenes or not. These films have been around so long and have been so formative to film makers throughout the 20th century that scenes from them could just as well be considered to be standard methods. I recommend looking for interviews with Alvarez and the rest of the crew for comments about sources of inspiration.
- Peter Isotalo 18:33, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
- I avoided adding the Potemkin and Metropolis references on WP:OR grounds. However, the baby carriage scene at 2:09 is almost certainly a nod to The Battleship Potemkin#The Odessa Steps sequence, while the criss-crossing spaceships at 2:32 echo a famous scene in Metropolis. It would be hard to look at the film as a whole without seeing some parallels with the 9/11 attacks, but other reviewers have cited influences including The War of the Worlds and Independence Day. The fireball at the end is similar to a scene in 28 Weeks Later (1:49 in the trailer [1]).--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 19:39, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hey, if there are reviews out there pointing out references, don't hesitate to cite them. I'm personally not the one who favors removing unreferenced claims of blatantly obvious similarities to specific scenes in specific films (the fireball doesn't seem like one of them, however), but I can assure you that other editors will eventually question and try to get rid of such statements.
- Peter Isotalo 21:37, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
Is that true that nobody noticed the similarity to "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow" episode in the begiining of the film?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.164.142.116 (talk) 06:59, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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