Talk:Association of Tennis Professionals/Archives/2008/April

Most Tournaments Won in a Row

Anyone know how the answer to this? Its probably just related to the "most wins in a row" record, but I'm too lazy to look it up.

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2nd march 2007 by Jean-Michel Zürcher

Yes, this would be a stat of big interest. In the page, there is only the "Most finals played in a row", led by Lendl with 18 and then Federer with 17. At the time I'm writing, Federer has won 7 tournaments in a row (20006 : US OPEN, Tokyo, Madrid, Basel, Masters Cup, 2007 : Australian Open, Dubai).

I tried to compile some infos about this stat in the following table. As it was said, this stat is related to the "most wins in a row", but not exactly, because if we speak about the "most tournaments in a row", competitions like Davis Cup, World Cup, etc... have not to be considered. So, it's possible that one player won a lot of tournaments, but also lost some Davis Cup matchs inbetween, so that it's possible that his longest winning streak isn't so big (this is the case for MCENROE 1984-85 and BORG 1979-80).

I compiled the table for the longest winning streaks (40 or more games).

I have another question : I could not find evidence that Borg did a 41 matchs winning streak as it's said in the main article. I don't know how this 41 matchs are compiled... Could anybody help me ?

Thanks for your comments

--83.228.211.151 23:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC) Jean-Michel Zürcher

• • • Hello, I've changed some surfaces supposed hard into CLAY below : the ATP Website is wrong as often. Carlo Colussi (talk) 12:49, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Player	Year	Tournaments won in a row	Tournaments - surface - # matchs won	Remark	Total matchs won in a row
VILAS	1977	7	Kitzbühel - clay - 5, Washington - CLAY - 6, Louisville - CLAY - 6, South Orange - CLAY - 5, Columbus - CLAY - 6, US OPEN - clay - 7, Paris - clay - 5	Lost F Aix-en-Provence vs Nastase - won also 2 Davis Cup matchs	46
LENDL	1981-82	8	Madrid - clay - 5, Barcelona - clay - 6, Basel - hard - 5, Vienna - hard - 5, Cologne - hard - 5, Buenos Aires - clay - 5, Masters - carpet - 4, Delray Beach - clay - 4	Lost F La Quinta vs Noah	44
MCENROE	1984	7	Masters (83) - carpet - 3, Philadelphia - carpet - 5, Richmond WCT - carpet - 4, Madrid - carpet - 5, Brussels - carpet - 5, Dallas WCT - carpet - 3, Forest Hills WCT - clay - 5	Lost F Roland Garros vs Lendl - won also 2 Davis Cup matchs and 4 World Team Cup matchs	42
MCENROE	1984-85	8	US OPEN - hard - 7, San Francisco - carpet - 5, Stockholm - hard - 5, Masters - carpet - 3, Philadelphia - carpet - 5, Houston - carpet - 5, Milan - carpet - 5, Chicago - carpet - 4	Lost Q Dallas vs Nystrom - Lost also 1 Davis Cup match vs Sundstrom (see remark in text)	-
BORG	1979-80	8	Tokyo - carpet - 5, Masters - carpet - 5, Pepsi Grand Slam - hard - 2, Nice - clay - 5, Monte Carlo - clay - 5, Las Vegas - hard - 5, Roland Garros - clay - 7, Wimbledon - grass - 7	Lost F Montreal-Toronto vs Lendl - Lost also 1 Nations Cup match (see remark in text)	-
FEDERER	2006-07	7	US OPEN - hard - 7, Tokyo - hard - 5, Madrid - hard - 5, Basel - carpet - 5, Masters - hard - 5, Australian Open - hard - 7, Dubai - hard - 5	streak is running - won also 2 Davis Cup matchs	41

Vilas's Clay Streak

Hi. What is your source on the Vilas 1977 Clay Streak (apart from the fact that everybody talked about it when Rafa got past the 53 mark...). I looked at Vilas's ATP record on atptennis.com. His last loss before the streak was in Rome R32. Then he won: -Roland Garros (7 matches) -Kitzbuhel (5) -Washington (6) -US Open (7) -Paris (5) -Aix-en-provence (4, loss in the finals) ...that's not 53 to me! Granted that only the official ATP matches can count in a streak, how can you justify your 53 number then?

• • • Hello. As often the ATP Website is wrong because Louisville (6), South Orange (5), and Columbus (6) were played on clay and not hard as indicated in the ATP site. At the time the US Open was played on "Har tru" (sort of clay less slow than the red european clay) and therefore the US tournaments before the Forest Hills were also on clay. Moreover at the time (in 1977) the Rye tournament was counted (4 wins if my memory is good). Since it has been dismissed from the statistics. All those tournaments switched the surface after the US Open moved to Flushing Meadow in 1978 and was then played on hard (decoturf) but it wasn't immediate. For instance the US Pro held in the Boston suburb was still played on clay until 1991 (decoturf from 1992). As I've written in many talk:pages do not consider the ATP statistics as the only official ones. The ATP results are complete enough since the beginning of their rankings but before many results are missing : in 1970 for instance half the tournaments are forgotten as the Dunlop Sydney Open (who at the time was considered by many as the true Australian Open) or the Wembley Pro tournaments. In 1968-69 their results are very short and before (from 1876 to 1967) there isn't anything. Carlo Colussi (talk) 13:08, 16 April 2008 (UTC)