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A fact from Asman Boedisantoso Ranakusuma appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 18 April 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that when he was the rector of the University of Indonesia, Asman Boedisantoso Ranakusuma sometimes took the train to campus to overhear criticism of the school?

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The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 14:03, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that in 2001, six University of Indonesia students successfully sued rector Asman Boedisantoso Ranakusuma after they were suspended for leading a protest against the rector's tuition fee policy? Source: UI students sue rector over suspensions, Court annuls rector's suspension decision
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kevin Noble Maillard

Created by Jeromi Mikhael (talk). Self-nominated at 17:57, 17 January 2023 (UTC).[reply]

@Jeromi Mikhael: I've struck ALT0, as I believe it falls afoul of DYK's rule on articles and hooks covering living persons. I think another hook will need to be proposed. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 01:44, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Theleekycauldron: Any explanation on which clause do I violate with this hook? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 08:00, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - From WP:DYK#gen4a: Articles and hooks that focus unduly on negative aspects of living individuals should be avoided. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 08:10, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Jeromi Mikhael: can another hook be provided, so that a reviewer can chime in? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:46, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    - ALT1: ... that former rector Asman Boedisantoso Ranakusuma would sometimes use train to commute the campus in order to listen in criticisms about the campus? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 01:54, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    - @Theleekycauldron: How about this? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 01:54, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      - Jeromi Mikhael, QPQs must be provided no later than 7 days after submitting a nomination; it's been 25 days. Please complete your QPQ right away. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:59, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
        @BlueMoonset: I've added a QPQ for the nomination. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 13:23, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 looks passable; article will need a full review. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 08:14, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Jeromi Mikhael and Theleekycauldron: ALT1 seems a bit redundant since it mentions "campus" twice. How about this alternative wording?

ALT2 ... that when he was rector of the University of Indonesia, Asman Boedisantoso Ranakusuma would commute via public transportation to the campus to listen to criticisms about the school?

I changed "train" to "public transportation" as the article doesn't specifically mention trains. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:17, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

~~Review coming.~~

New enough, long enough, neutral and appears well cited (mostly in Indonesian). Copyedited as I read, but a few minor remaining questions for @Jeromi Mikhael: Is it appropriate to link "undergraduate medical degree" to Medical degree? Should "academician" (3x) be changed to "administrator"? What happened after the suspension saga - it seems unresolved? Added back the mention of train, so my preference for hook (also restoring "sometimes") would be:

ALT2a ... that when he was the rector of the University of Indonesia, Asman Boedisantoso Ranakusuma would sometimes take the train to the campus to overhear criticism of the school?

Very close to approval. AGF on the since-deleted QPQ. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 19:04, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Just confirming that it was a decent QPQ. Schwede 66 18:44, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall:

Seemingly abandoned, but I'm reviewing it. Approve ALT2a. BorgQueen (talk) 00:53, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]