Talk:Ashlyn Gere/Archive 1

Archive 1

Date of birth

It seems to me that the date of birth is 1959--Carlos300468 (talk) 06:01, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

What leads you to that conclusion? Dismas|^(talk) 06:41, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Here YOB is definitely 1959

Any fan knows she was in her 30s when she got into adult films.

Here's a better source for her age: http://www.adultfilmdatabase.com/actor/ashlyn-gere-98/

http://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=AGere/gender=female — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitch12345678 (talk • contribs) 17:03, 9 January 2013 (UTC) Mitch12345678 (talk) 20:02, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Not Reliable Sources

I've twice reverted age changes today. IAFD and IMDB are user generated sites, with no editorial review. They are not reliable sources for biographical data about a living person. David in DC (talk) 16:16, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Actually you're wrong. Both sites have paid staff that check additions to the main database before they go live. IMDB in particular fact checks within the industry before making changes. Both sites do contain forums and areas where Users can comment, but neither site is completely "user generated with no editorial review". --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 06:30, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

I cannot dispute what you appear to know factually. If you have a reliable source for "Actually you're wrong..." please let me know. It wouldn't be the first time I was wrong, and I like to try to keep from being wrong on the same topic more than once. There so many new things to be wrong about. :)

In the meantime, please review Wikipedia:Reliable_source_examples#Use_of_electronic_or_online_sources and Wikipedia:WikiProject_Pornography#Real_names_of_performers. I've done no independent research about the reliability of these sites, but the current wiki-consensus on the matter seems clear. If it's wrong, we should do something about that. Thanks. David in DC (talk) 22:20, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm totally fine with leaving out real names in porn articles. I used to live in San Fernando Valley, worked in the mainstream Entertainment industry (before the anti-stalking law), and have friends that work(ed) in Adult, so no issue whatsoever with leaving out real names if that was what the IMDB/IAFD dispute was about. My apologies for barging in if that was the case...

But back to the WP:RS, the filmographies (meaning an actor's resume) of both sites are generally trusted because they do have paid staff that update specifically this information, neither wants to get sued for false information and its happened with IMDb. Unless its been deleted, the IMDb article says as much as does the website. (Assuming you clicked the link and read what's there) The statement there is not as ironclad as many would like it to be, but if a very large, for-profit company such as Amazon that offers a paid resume service to actors trusts their sources to the extent that they are willing to defend them in court, I think there is a degree of reliability that is acceptable for us.

As for the biographies, that info had to come from somewhere. So if a staff person can find something to justify adding it, I start looking for that same source but I have a decent idea where to look. So I agree that using the bios from either can be problematic, but I don't treat them as being completely false or useless. Make sense? By the way, very cool assortment of articles that you edit... For the record, I don't know if "harrassive" is a word either, but its funny. :) --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 02:11, 5 January 2014 (UTC)