Talk:Artificial tears

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Citation duplication

Ok, I dont know about quoting standards in the english wikipedia - but quoting seems a bit excessive in this article - every single sentence is quoted - and mostly with the same document... Should that really be visible to everyone (is it common practice have quotes visible only in the source?) 199.74.98.146 05:16, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Keratoconjunctivitis_sicca#Citation_duplication with regards to this. --AB 19:56, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

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Long-term use of preservatives present in some artificial tears may harm the eye.[citation needed]

I think preservatives are the foreign substances for the eyes, of course it may harmful not only for the eye but also for the body if it misused or it applied for long time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.162.7.183 (talk) 13:24, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Unsourced claim about dependency

I'm moving the following text from the article to here because there a source has not been provided to verify it.

There is a chance that habitual use of artificial tears, especially when they are not needed, may cause a dependency. Like most dependencies, the body may learn that it no longer needs to produce the same quantity or quality of tears on its own, since they are supplied for it.

--AB (talk) 06:51, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Mention of Lacrisert

This is a possible continuation of a discussion at Talk:Keratoconjunctivitis_sicca. --IO Device (talk) 00:34, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I will update the information on Lacrisert as advised and will go from there. Thanks. WillAb (talk) 01:09, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I thought it was clear that the keratoconjunctivitis sicca article is off-limits for mention of Lacrisert, yet you added Lacrisert to it. This is unproductive and a waste of time for everyone involved. Please refrain from making nonconstructive edits that you know all too well will be reverted anyway. As far as my opinion is concerned, the current mention of Lacrisert in this article is acceptable. --IO Device (talk) 04:13, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Noted, but no, it was not clear it was 100% off limits; I thought the content had to be reworked so that it was not too promotional (from going over the back and forth regarding the attempted efforts). I understand you feel Lacrisert is better off under artifical tears, and that's fine, but I still am not clear - if the FDA has approved its indication for treatment in patients with keratoconjunctivitis sicca, per the indication statement listed here: http://www.lacrisert.com/ why can't even 1 line of text be included on the keratoconjunctivitis sicca page? Is the decision more subjective on your part? I'm not understanding the rationale for not allowing information to be posted for a drug with an indication that clearly includes keratoconjunctivitis sicca. Thanks WillAb (talk) 03:45, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

The substance in Lacrisert, i.e. hydroxypropyl cellulose, is the same as is in many artificial tear products. This is why it does not deserve a section of its own in the keratoconjunctivitis sicca article. The decision is not subjective. Others too will independently revert the edit if you make it again, as they have done in the past. Not a single existing artificial tear product deserves mention in the dry eye article. --IO Device (talk) 10:44, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

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WikiProject Medical Student Edits

We are two fourth year medical students pursuing a career in ophthalmology. As a part of our WikiProject course at our medical school, we aim to enhance this page’s information to inform viewers on the topic of artificial tears. We will be working over the next month to edit this page with updated information regarding the chemical makeup, indications, precautions, and various types of artificial tears. Lubricating drops are commonly used for many ophthalmic conditions and knowledge of their uses and effects would be very helpful to the general public. This article has been rated as Start-Class on the project’s quality scale and is rated as mid-importance on the project’s importance scale. Listed below are goals for improvement.

Work Plan Sections to add:

- Indications (Person B) 
- Types of artificial tears (Person A) 
  - With preservatives (Person A) 
  - Preservative-free (Person A) 
  - Compare with autologous serum tears (Person A) 
- Cost (if possible) (Person B) 

Rationale: We want to inform patients/consumers about the different indications for artificial tears. Currently, this article only discusses the use of artificial tears for the "treatment" of keratoconjunctivitis sicca (dry eye syndrome). We would like to discuss other indications as well. We also wish to inform patients/consumers on the different types of artificial tears on the market. Currently, there is not a description or extensive discussion or comparison of the various types of artificial tears. Autologous serum tears are not discussed at all. We also would like to add some information about the different formulations of artificial tears and their indications. If possible, we would want to add some information about the access and cost of these different types of artificial tears.

Sections to bolster:

- Chemistry (Person A) 
- Usage (Person B) 
- Precautions, adverse effects, interactions, contraindications (Person B) 

Rationale: We want to provide a more in-depth discussion about the differences in usage and potential adverse effects of artificial tears.

We will also restructuring this page so that the section titles are more streamlined and logical. For instance, "Precautions" can be possibly be combined with "Adverse effects, interactions and contraindications". Also, "Effects" and "Usage" may be potentially combined as well.

We look forward to editing this page and welcome any feedback or help provided by the Wiki community!

Peer Review:

Overall, I think that you both did a great job, and that this article has a great deal more information that will go on to help both lay people and physicians. I thought that the contrast between when to use tears with vs. without preservatives was especially helpful information. Additionally, you followed your plan well and completed the majority of your original objectives. Great job! Some possible areas of improvement that I see could be:

   - The Chemistry section was a little "science" heavy, and may be challenging for lay people to read. I know that this is the nature of the 
   section and of the topic, but adding some clarifying statements following complicated sections could be helpful.

   - Linking words throughout the article could provide even more helpful information for readers. For example, in the Indications and 
   Effects section, words like Sjogren's, autoimmune thyroiditis, and uveitis could be linked so that readers unfamiliar with these diseases 
   can explore the topics with more ease.

   - I did not see a statement or section that compared artificial tears with autologous serum tears. This could be something to add in the 
   future! You could even add this to the Research section, or attempt to find more updated research projects that are currently underway.

   - An image of the tear film would be a helpful visual. Or if that is difficult to obtain, an image of the eye anatomy in general could be 
   a nice additive.

You both did a wonderful job adding and enhancing this article! VPedigo (talk) 14:39, 28 January 2020 (UTC)