Talk:2023 Arras school stabbing

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BLPCRIME

Per WP:BLPCRIME, Wikipedia cannot name living people in any way that may suggest they have committed a crime, unless they have been found guilty and convicted by a court of law. That includes the person suspected by the police of carrying out the Arras killing. So, I'd like to ask the editors to refrain from the urge of adding the current suspect's name. — kashmīrī ^TALK 22:38, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

BLPCRIME does not say we cannot name the accused. It provides that "editors must seriously consider not including material—in any article—that suggests the person has committed or is accused of having committed a crime, unless a conviction has been secured." So we only have to "seriously consider" whether to name the accused. Other facts, such as wide naming in the media, may lead editors to determine that naming the accused follows multiple RSs. WWGB (talk) 12:16, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Precisely. For an example, look no further than our article on the contemporaneous below-referenced case—in which Wikipedia names the accused no less than six times. Ekpyros (talk) 15:18, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ekpyros, The suspect's surname was introduced by an editor there only in the last week. I'm going to remove it again in a moment. — kashmīrī ^TALK 18:25, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kashmiri, thanks! I'm personally not against including the name of suspects who've been indicted (as opposed to just named), but understand why others disagree—but strongly believe it's important to be consistent.

On another note, perhaps anti-Muslim is a better term here than Islamophobic, given the controversy over the latter. That said, it should obviously be used if quoting either President Biden or CAIR (the only two entities I could find using the term in the cited sources). Again, appreciate your thoughtful response! Ekpyros (talk) 19:53, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Another stabbing

I'm wondering what is the difference between the stabbing being the subject of the present article and this stabbing Both appear to be, essentially, hate crimes linked to religion and the ongoing situation in the Middle East. However, only one gets global media coverage while the other is only mentioned in local news. Can anyone clarify? Would the other stabbing merit a Wikipedia article? — kashmīrī ^TALK 23:41, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Both are receiving national & international media coverage. Jim 2 Michael (talk) 17:59, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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