Talk:Arctic Archipelago

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Greenland

Isn't Greenland part of the same archipelago? 70.55.200.47 01:09, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No. Greenland is geographically separated from this archipelago. Besides, Greenland is a territory of Denmark, not Canada. 142.103.207.10 23:48, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment

I have assessed this as Start Class, as it contains more detail and organization than would be expected of a Stub, and as mid importance, as it is a broad topic that plays a strong role in the understanding of Canada. Cheers, CP 23:40, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to Arctic Archipelago

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was oppose moving the article. Mind matrix 01:04, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Since Arctic Archipelago and Arctic archipelago already redirect here (see links), I suggest we move this article to the simpler name. Mind matrix 00:38, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support as nominator. Mind matrix 00:38, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose other arctic archipelagos exist, such as Svalbard, New Siberian Islands and Severnaya Zemlya. Title would be ambiguous. --Qyd (talk) 03:00, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: The reasoning provided isn't compelling: the current title is both correct and common, nor should it be problematic. (Mind you, the proposed title is also common.) Quizimodo (talk) 03:03, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This is one of my rare oppositions. I think it should stay at Canadian Arctic Archipelago. I don't think the points in the Stratford Shakespeare Festival move have anything to do with this, because we were simply changing the name to the new official festival name (which included the town's name). Also taking into account international politicking (with the North-West passage), I think it should stay here. -Royalguard11(T·R!) 19:56, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

The current opposition to the renaming is on the grounds that other arctic archipelagos exist. However, they are already uniquely identified with their proper names (as noted by Qyd), so a dab page such as Arctic Archipelago (disambiguation) is more than sufficient to handle these cases. With respect to the commonality of the two names, a quick internet search, excluding all Wikipedia-related sites and mirrors, finds roughly 29000 sites using "Canadian Arctic Archipelago" and 83000 using "Arctic Archipelago". (Note: I have inspected the top 100 links in the latter search, and each one refers to the Canadian archipelago, so it is clearly the predominant use of this term.) By the way, this is similar to another discussion in which I was involved, regarding the renaming of Stratford Shakespeare Festival; I think the points I mention there are equivalently valid here. Mind matrix 17:24, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Template produces poor PDF (print) output

PDF output using Google Chrome's built-in distiller produces poor results with this page. (Use the Ctrl P command in Chrome to preview). Issue may be with the template used or (more likely) the the way content was entered (coded) into the template and saved by the contributor. For example, when printing this article with Google's PDF printer, the font size is scaled down too much, the info-box column on the right side is scaled to less than 45% of the total page width, and some pages have too much white (wasted) space. Note that the font size should not dynamically scale up or down to fit a page; font size of the main-body text content should be about 12 points on outputted PDF page(s); it is the images and table cells that should dynamically scale up or down to fit the info box and template in order to maintain the two-column Wikipedia layout. The offending elements appear to be caused by the separation of the tables and images. Refer to this Wikipedia article for a proper printer-friendly layout using tables with images -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_German_Navy_ships Also refer to these Wilipedia articles for proper layout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Territories https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nunavut Printchecker (talk) 19:54, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've just tried it and am not seeing the size problems. The only problem I see is with the map with the islands on each side. I'm getting most of the islands on page 2 in two columns with a gap between. The map appears on page 6 with two islands listed on the left and three on the right. I checked the Nunavut page and it seemed fine. For the NWT on page 5 I got the image of two Slavey girls and nothing else. I just tried this page with Firefox and map was in the correct place. It could be something to do with to do with your PDF software, I'm using Foxit Reader. Did you try using Wikipedia's built in PDF creator? CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 02:19, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi; Great response time. At first, I too thought it might be an application-related issue. The reason I am leaning to template/wiki coding issue is because the problem does not appear on all articles with tables and images; it only appears on some. I have noticed that on certain topics, probably submitted by the same person or group, the printing results are either consistently good or consistently bad. For example,

Some of the French-towns-and-cities-related articles are producing consistently bad results, especially the areas around the Normandy-Calais region (examples: Valenciennes, Dunkirk, Gisors). Try some of the French towns starting with "Châtel-" The infobox column information on the right is consistently stretching to the left using up 80% or more of the page width on the printed output.
Chemical-compounds and isotopes-related articles...same issue as the French towns and cities
The Czech Republic, Belgium, most German cities and towns articles are outputting nice
Most of the single or smaller-sized topic articles are outputting nice
Many of the "List of..."-related articles with tables and images seem to cause a problem

If it was an app-related issue, then it would be a consistent issue across all articles, but it is not. Plus coding wikis can be a real pain, and with so many people contributing, even though there are templates, it is easy to mess things up and get various layout results across the Wikipedia domains. If there was a single error-free template that even the most novice of user could fill out, then the results would be great every time.

I have Firefox and Nitro Pro, and sometimes (not always) it will produce a better or acceptable print result. Unfortunately Nitro Pro doesn't preserve hyperlinks from webpages at this time (go figure that one out?). The other free Firefox add-ons, like "Print pages to Pdf" are not acceptable to me after trying them. The Wikipedia online PDF service is too slow for what I want to do, plus it doesn't preserve the WYSIWYG look of the two-column HTML page.

Regarding the "Canadian Arctic Archipelago" article, I've attached and notated a screenshot of my print results (feel free to delete the image after reviewing).

File:Print_preview_of_the_Canadian_Arctic_Archipelago_article_using_Google_Chrome's_PDF_converter.png

Printchecker (talk) 04:21, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Queen Elizabeth Islands

I looked at Queen Elizabeth Islands because it was the answer to yesterday's Redactle puzzle, then came here, but was surprised to find no mention of that title in this article. I've added a sentence mentioning it. There may well be deep politics and sensitivities involved here of which I know nothing: apologies if I'm treading on anyone's toes (and I haven't researched the page history). It just seemed odd that this article didn't mention a name which seems to refer to a division of the archipelago. An alternative would be for it to be a "See also" perhaps? Over to you local experts. PamD 08:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]