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Reviewer: Whiteguru (talk · contribs) 11:36, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Starts GA Review. The reassessment will follow the same sections of the Article. Thank you --Whiteguru (talk) 11:36, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 

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GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
   HTML document size: 520 kB
   Prose size (including all HTML code): 89 kB
   References (including all HTML code): 275 kB
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   Prose size (text only): 45 kB (6918 words) "readable prose size"
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  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  1. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  • Are all Lebanese Arab Christians?
checkY further clarification of the different sects and views JJNito197 (talk) 23:17, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • went to Rosary Sisters Schools → implies a person is a Christian. Is this a reliable fact?
checkY clarified with 'accepting of all faiths' addition JJNito197 (talk) 23:17, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Attendance at Holy Spirit University of Kaslik. → does it follow this university accepts only Christians?
checkY clarified with 'accepting of all faiths' addition JJNito197 (talk) 23:17, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • attending the Jesuit College of St Joseph in Beirut → accepted only Christians?
checkY clarified with 'accepting of all faiths' addition JJNito197 (talk) 13:34, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Consider Mayada El Hennawy. Is she an Arab Christian? Ditto, Nassif Zeytoun. Consider Toni Qattan. The article says he is from Jordan; no mention of religion.
checkY removed El Hennawy, Zeytoun (will find source and reinstate), Toni Qattan. JJNito197 (talk) 13:29, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference 73 does not seem relevant.
checkY removed JJNito197 (talk) 23:17, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference 179?
checkY removed JJNito197 (talk) 23:17, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  1. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  • The history section is uncharacteristically slim.
  • The history section links to itself. Clarify.
checkY The history section stretches from antiquity to diaspora, the sentence under the header is supposed to summarize this. I have updated the sentence as a segway to the subcategories (antiquity, islamic era, modern times) JJNito197 (talk) 18:09, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Academia section references solid Arab Christian contributions.
  • The Entertainment section is not as solid as the above. It appears to be name dropping of entertainers.
checkY expanded on achievements as requested below and trimmed JJNito197 (talk) 13:34, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The difference between Academia and Entertainment is that the achievements and contributions are mentioned. Ditto Politics and Press. Both good sections. Consider.
  • Religious Persecution and Regional conflict sections are handled well.
  • The notables section is not well handled. It may benefit from thinning out the many names and inclusion of contributions to human flourishing.
checkY expanded on individual achievements as requested and trimmed US politcians JJNito197 (talk) 13:34, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • the use of Koine Greek in liturgy ... an important distinction.
checkY clarified in lead JJNito197 (talk) 13:34, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Greek clerical hegemony: there was coverage in the Press.
  • The "demotion" of the Patriarch has been ruled uncanonical by Patriarch Bartholomew, and is not recognized by any Orthodox Church; it has only been (imposed) by the Synod of Jerusalem. Consider.
checkY clarified per request JJNito197 (talk) 13:34, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The section on Assyrians. If they are non-Arab, why include this section?
checkY major trim, merged as chaldeans and assyrians are linked historically, +photo to clarify this JJNito197 (talk) 13:34, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • State of Palestine: The Vatican and the Catholic Church → are one and the same thing. Drop Catholic Church.
checkY done JJNito197 (talk) 13:34, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  1. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  1. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  • Page created 8 July 2004
  • Page has 224 watchers
  • Page has 5,362 edits by 1,264 editors
  • 90 day page views = 344,670 with a daily average of 491 viewers.
  • Lot of bots on this page, Anomie Bot, Smack bot, Citation bot, Internet Archive bot.
  • Majority of edits to this page occurred in 2021; 1,301 edits
  1. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  • 31 images on this page.
  • Infobox Image = File:IconJonArab.JPG = template without license parameter: please specify why the underlying work is public domain in both the source country and the United States
checkY Changed to more stable image JJNito197 (talk) 10:45, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • File:New Ghassanid Banner.png
  • File:Hunayn ibn-Ishaq al-'Ibadi Isagoge.jpg = template without license parameter: please specify why the underlying work is public domain in both the source country and the United States
checkY removed and replaced with stable imageJJNito197 (talk) 11:34, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • File:BashirChehab.jpg = copyright issues; author attribution is needed;
checkY Changed to more stable image JJNito197 (talk) 10:45, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • File:Cyrine AbdelNour 66ème Festival de Venise (Mostra) 6.jpg = tits and ass, hey? Can't see the relevance of this image. Remove it.
checkY Changed to more stable image JJNito197 (talk) 10:45, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • File:Nasif al-Yaziji.jpg - accepted; more than 70 years after death
  • File:Photograph of Maryana Marrash2.jpg = template without license parameter: please specify why the underlying work is public domain in both the source country and the United States
checkY removed imageJJNito197 (talk) 13:29, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • File:Algunos miembros de Al-Rabita al-Qalamiyya.jpg = taken in 1920. (from Robin Waterfield’s The Life and Times of Kahlil Gibran). There is a CC-by-SA copyright release which is not sourced to the author.
checkY fixed image, added author JJNito197 (talk) 10:45, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Overall:
  • We need to resolve the issues with images mention directly above;
  • At a glance, there appears to be too many images on this page;
checkY done, trimmed images JJNito197 (talk) 18:09, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is observed in the Entertainment section that there are too many names without contributions
checkY done JJNito197 (talk) 18:09, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The sections under Arabian Peninsula (Kuwait, Bahrain, North Africa, etc.,) might be profitably condensed into two or three paragraphs;
checkY done JJNito197 (talk) 18:09, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article makes a valiant effort to capture a very broad swathe of Arab Christians, their works and diaspora, in addition to notation of the different communions and orthodox communities with a well laid out table of the differences between these ecclesial communities. A little cleaning up, drop some superfluous pictures and condense some material will see this go to GA status. --Whiteguru (talk) 11:48, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Whiteguru, thank you for your helpful review. I will address all these concerns asap and make revisions as requested. Kind regards JJNito197 (talk) 13:43, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Whiteguru Hello, I have covered all things in this review. Please let me know if there is further issues. Kind regards JJNito197 (talk) 22:43, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@JJNito197:

  • Thank you for your work.
  • The History section opens like so: The [[history of Arab Christians]] coincides with the [[history of Christianity]], (click the link; it loops back to itself)...
  • Here you have the History section linking to itself. Consider.
  • Neat work on the infobox; looks much better, clearer and functional.
  • Very good work on the images, and the page layout looks so much more attractive.
  • That table on Denominations is utterly valuable and will become a major reference for students of Orthodoxy and Early Christianity. Well done.
  • The corrections are complete; kindly take a look at the history section linking to itself. --Whiteguru (talk) 00:38, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, its been almost a year tweaking! Onceinawhile added the table and I agree it is very helpful for students. Kind regards, JJNito197 (talk) 00:48, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 

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