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In severe cases, swelling of the oral cavity / throat and anaphylaxis can occur when drinking water.

I provided several sources including NIH

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5438944/ which says swelling of the oral cavity occurred after drinking water. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.144.156.82 (talk) 23:27, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20160915-the-woman-who-is-allergic-to-water

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/JUST+ONE+CUP+OF+WATER+COULD+KILL+LITTLE+HEIDI%3B+Girl%27s+deadly+allergy...-a061152595

https://scienceinfo.net/girl-allergic-to-water.html

https://www.sciencealert.com/here-s-what-happens-if-you-develop-an-allergy-to-water — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.144.156.82 (talk) 23:42, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

Can someone move this page to Aquagenous urticaria (with the lowercase letter U)? That's the standard approach. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:00, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done, sort of. --Una Smith (talk) 22:28, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Valid medical source

Can anyone find an actual, valid source for this disorder in a medical journal? A link to a Daily Mail article and an uncited About.com article does not make this a valid entry. Especially since the About.com article implies that the source is not water, but additives in the water. If this was a real disorder, there would be some proof of it through testing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.15.113.41 (talk) 17:39, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/reprint/189/12/895?maxtoshow=&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&fulltext=Aquagenic+urticaria&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&resourcetype=HWCIT This might be what the previous comment was asking for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.197.89.235 (talk) 02:22, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

An article from 1964? Nothing newer than that? If someone was really allergic to water, wouldn't they be constantly allergic to themselves? Like, constant mouth irritation from saliva, digestive fluids, every kind of water-containing liquid in the body. (I don't know a lot about biology, or medicine, but this seems like it is some misinformation wikipediafied. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.5.53.169 (talk) 17:25, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OMG this article really needs help! Disorganized, chunks copied from other sources, grammar and tense inconsistencies... I will do my best to improve it! --DigitalGadget 01:58, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's real, I have it :P And you don't get allergic from your inner body fluids as its a skin condition and not an actual allergy. Sweat does cause irritation though. And it usually only appears on the lighter, thinner skin. Like the under side of arms, stomach, back, legs. Skin on the face and handpalms, feet, etc is thicker and more resilient. It's like getting a tan, some areas get burnt/dark faster then others. These parts are where the irritation appears. Hope this helped.. --Olekp (talk) 18:44, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Known cases

I don't see why this case is notable. If no one objects I shall remove it. Mtaylor848 (talk) 18:40, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's the best known case in the world. She is famous because of the extreme version of the disorder that she has. --Olekp (talk) 18:45, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Antihistamines

If it's not a histamine producing reaction, why are antihistamines prescribed? This needs some clarification. 129.21.100.13 (talk) 19:03, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's probably more accurate to say it's not IgE mediated which is usually what denotes a true allergy from things that produce an allergy-type reaction but are not considered true allergies (such as medication allergic reactions). The reaction in the body is the same, it's just any allergy to something that isn't a protein isn't technically a "true" allergy. Gigs (talk) 16:00, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Water temperature not significant.

According to Genetic and Rare Diseases (GARD) at the NIH, water temperature does NOT make a difference in the reaction - https://rarediseases.info.nih.gov/gard/10901/aquagenic-urticaria/resources/1 . Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 01:15, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Drinking water may lead to symptoms, too.

The most information that I see so far is on the MDhealth website. It addresses what can happen in some sufferers when they drink water. I do not know how reliable a source the site is, though - http://www.md-health.com/Aquagenic-Urticaria.html

Here's a small bit of vague info from the American Academy of Allergy, Asthma, and Immunology. The lack of extensive info at the site must speak to the rarity of the condition. - http://www.aaaai.org/ask-the-expert/aquagenic-urticaria.aspx

Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 01:35, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This NIH report seems more reliable. [1]. I think we should change the final sentence. Also I see no reliable report of drinking water causing this reaction, the medical literature is all concerned with this as a contact reaction. Gigs (talk) 13:38, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Petition for Deletion

Water allergies aren't real but a form of hysteria. If someone was allergic to the water molecule then their immune system would constantly be attacking and they'd be in a constant state of anaphylaxis from their saliva alone.

Just think about it - a person goes into shock from drinking a mouthful of water yet they can handle some 40+ litres of water that's in their body as well? Doesn't make sense. You don't need a degree to conclude that. Is there a way I can either edit the article or petition for it to be removed? In recent years several people have claimed to be allergic to water, receiving money in the process and I feel the article helps them justify their ludicrous claims.

I've already had to do a HUGE re-edit of the Wikipedia article on sea serpents since the article was so heavily biased into making the audience believe that sea serpents are real and it was obvious the article was written by a person with an agenda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.29.149.87 (talk) 17:41, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I edited this article to make it more neutral.

There is no medical literature on antibodies against the H2O molecule and it is also impossible to be allergic to the H2O molecule as it is far too small. I am including this detail as this article seems heavily biased towards people who claim to have this alleged condition. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.29.80.99 (talk) 14:27, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You need to provide citations to support your claim. The main body of the article contains references to online works which appear reliable (^[1] and ^[2]) so the onus is on you to provide a citation. Until then I've removed the section.

In future, please create new sections BELOW other sections, not at the top of the talk page. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 10:09, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Park, H; Kim, H. S.; Yoo, D. S.; Kim, J. W.; Kim, C. W.; Kim, S. S.; Hwang, J. I.; Lee, J. Y.; Choi, Y. J. (2011). "Aquagenic urticaria: A report of two cases". Annals of Dermatology. 23 (Suppl 3): S371–4. doi:10.5021/ad.2011.23.S3.S371. PMC 3276800. PMID 22346281.
^ Rothbaum, Robert; McGee, Jean S. (2016). "Aquagenic urticaria: diagnostic and management challenges". Journal of Asthma and Allergy. 9: 209–213. doi:10.2147/JAA.S91505. ISSN 1178-6965. PMC 5136360. PMID 27942227.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link)

Are you denying the human body is mostly water? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.29.86.108 (talk) 22:36, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Park, H; Kim, H. S.; Yoo, D. S.; Kim, J. W.; Kim, C. W.; Kim, S. S.; Hwang, J. I.; Lee, J. Y.; Choi, Y. J. (2011). "Aquagenic urticaria: A report of two cases". Annals of Dermatology. 23 (Suppl 3): S371–4. doi:10.5021/ad.2011.23.S3.S371. PMC 3276800. PMID 22346281.

[2] Rothbaum, Robert; McGee, Jean S. (2016). "Aquagenic urticaria: diagnostic and management challenges". Journal of Asthma and Allergy. 9: 209–213. doi:10.2147/JAA.S91505. ISSN 1178-6965. PMC 5136360. PMID 27942227.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI (link)

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