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Requested move 25 September 2017

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Page moved. Additionally, redirect for Wallet (software) changed to disambiguation page. (closed by non-admin page mover) -- Dane ^talk 03:30, 1 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wallet (software) → Apple Wallet – WP:NPOV, consistency with the other app articles, and disambiguation, and in this case according to Wikipedia:ATDAB MOS, natural disambiguation is preferred WikIan -(talk) 02:19, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:02, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Poll

I support moving the content of Wallet (software) to Apple Wallet per Wikipedia:ATDAB, in particular, natural disambiguation in conjunction with Wikipedia:PRECISION. I do not believe Wallet (software) is sufficiently precise to remain as a redirect to the new title. I think it is ambiguous in relation to Google Wallet and Microsoft Wallet; both being software driven, electronic wallets. I, therefor, feel it should instead redirect to Wallet (disambiguation) after all back-links are re-targeted. I'd like this point decided by the consensus of a thoughtful discussion. Thank you.--John Cline (talk) 04:09, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Seconding this request. ONR (talk) 15:55, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support. A year ago, a strong consensus was established that "Company + App name" is a valid form of natural disambiguation, even when the company names is not part of the app name. That said, I would have opposed the move had it not been for the fact that there are Google Wallet and Microsoft Wallet. —Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 11:10, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support as per John Cline. power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:35, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support, other 'wallets' may exist. MfortyoneA (talk) 22:48, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support – I've seen it and heard it as "Apple Wallet" for so long now, and I think the badge displayed on the article itself proves that it's marketed as "Apple Wallet" as well. WP:COMMONNAME would be a great argument in support of the move as well. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · contribs · count) 05:28, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If move, what is to happen with the existing page Apple Wallet and its talk page? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:41, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Anthony Appleyard: They are just redirects so couldn't we just do a page swap, we were usurp the title and turn this into a redirect. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 10:09, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Emir of Wikipedia: Uhh, just overwrite them. Sorry. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:19, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:NATURALDAB and WP:COMMONNAME. GeoffreyT2000 ^{(talk, contribs)} 23:27, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

@John Cline and WikIan: queried move request Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:02, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

"Common Wallet Passes" should not be on this page

@Gsblo:

A) There is no publicly available usage data for Apple Wallet passes, thus distinguishing a select few of them as "common" either shows a bias or is an assumption that cannot be proven.

B) There are thousands of businesses that integrate with Apple Wallet. Either all of them must be listed or none of them. If you wish to track the former, it should go on a separate page. Tytygh55 (talk) 04:36, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are inventing reasons for undoing my contributions. As I mentioned in your user talk page, neither “unnecessary section” (your first attempt) not “lacks citations” (your second attempt) are valid reasons for removing other user’s contributions. In fact your undos are against Wikipedia editing guidelines.

> Either all of them must be listed or none of them.

Point us to the relevant rule(s) or guidance that this is a Wikipedia requirement. Gsblo (talk) 05:18, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Gsblo: "All content on Wikipedia must be cited. Uncited content can be removed by any user anytime."

Cite a source as to how these passes are somehow "common" so that your edit may be accepted as consensus on the page. I admire your endeavors to add information to the page, but I'd argue it doesn't belong on a Wikipedia article, but rather an external website, since there are no sources for the information you're trying to add. You could mark these passes as "available" instead of "common," which would be accurate. But like I said before, if you make a list like that then every Wallet pass is eligible to be added to said list. I tried making a list of Google Wallet/Apple Wallet passes myself once, but gave up due to how many of them there are.Tytygh55 (talk) 16:23, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your feedback but it appears that you are finding all sorts of excuses to remove my contributions - you have gone from unnecessary section to lacking citations to issues with "common". This removes credibility of your reasoning.

I need your help to build this section up. Your suggestion of "available" vs. "common" is great, please contribute.

Gsblo (talk) 01:54, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You can take a lot of the content from the Apple Pay section and put it here. Lots of it actually pertains to the Apple Wallet app, not the Apple Pay service. Tytygh55 (talk) 06:11, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]