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Episode summaries

These have been reduced massively, making them insufficient. What policy/guideline says that they have to be that short? Jim Michael (talk) 12:59, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the original plots and wrote shorter ones in order to be able to remove the template that said they were too long/detailed. Before doing so I checked to see that the editor who added the template was an experienced editor, and then checked various other episode lists to verify my idea of what was typical. Personally I see nothing wrong with reasonably detailed summaries, I was merely intent on removing a disfiguring template. I'm perfectly happy to see the original summaries restored provided it does not lead to another 'too long' template being inserted. It may be that the episode list section should point to a separate article containing a longer plot summary as is done with many other TV series. PRL42 (talk) 11:01, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've now added a section for the overall plot, so that the information is present, and the episode summaries can be kept short. However, there is no guarantee that another editor will not object to that arrangement. PRL42 (talk) 11:30, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ending

The ending is falsely represented in this article:

"She says to Mark that she realises he has a personality disorder that means he took her request more literally than she intended." [my emphasis]

This is a fabrication; Yvonne says no such thing. What actually happens in the final scene is that we see a flashback to the so-called safe-house in which Yvonne says to Mark that she wants him to kill George, to "smash his face in", directly in response to his question about what she wants him to do. The very final image that we see, in which Yvonne looks to the camera, breaking the fourth wall, is the huge hint here: whether she was being serious or not in the safe-house (and the way the words were delivered did not suggest it was anything other than a genuine desire), and whether Mark misunderstood her intentions or not, the simple fact of the matter is she did say those words to him - which meant that she lied to the court and got away with it, and was still lying and concealing critical facts in the case. That she said (in the last scene) that Mark didn't understand the difference [between what is real and what is not] - and not the fabricated statement quoted above, which appears nowhere in the series - could very well be her way to excuse herself from responsibility for her words/actions and avoid conviction. The author and/or screenwriter has deliberately provided an ambiguity for the viewer here, which this article contrives to conceal, including through fabrication of the script, for reasons only the person(s) who wrote it can explain. 82.10.117.175 (talk) 02:53, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]