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I'm debating whether "Apalachicola people" is the best title for this article. I have become aware that "Apalachicola people" is a misnomer. Apalachicola was a town on the Chattahoochee River, the leading town of five Hitchiti-speaking towns. Those towns were part of a larger grouping which included Muscogee- and Koasati-speaking towns. The Muscogee town of Coweta was the leading town of the entire group. The Spanish referred to the group of towns as Apalachicola (province). So, Apalachicola was the name of a town, and it was the name by which the Spanish referred, alternatively, to the Hitchiti-speaking towns on the Chattahoochee River, or a larger group of towns on the Chattahoochee that included towns speaking Muscogee, Koasati, and other languages. So, beyond being the name of a town, "Apalachicola" was a name applied by the Spanish to, in a narrow sense, a political grouping of towns, a sub-set of Hitchiti-speakers, or, in a wider sense, a multilingual political group of towns. I don't think "people" is a good fit for either group. Donald Albury 19:04, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In a not-entirely-rigorous survey of the sources cited for this article I found "Apalachicola" used in the following senses:

Village, town - 15
Province, country, territory, (group of) towns, confederacy - 35 (Province - 22)
(Place - not otherwise specified) - 22
Indians, people, braves, warriors, sentinels - 14
Chief(s) of the town or province - 7
Miscellaneous - 6

I suggest that "Apalachicola province" is the WP:COMMONNAME for the subject of this article, occuring 22 times in the sources, compared to five times for "Apalachicola people" and six times for "Apalachicola Indians". The only basis for a classification of "Apalachicola people" is as "residents of the towns in Apalachicola province", and the ten or twelve towns in the province included Hitchiti-, Muscogee- and Koasati-speaking towns, as well as towns with speakers of non-Muscogean languages. Apalachicola province was a political entity, with the chief of the town of Apalachicola paramont over the other Hitchiti-speaking towns, while the chief of Coweta was paramont over all of the province, including the chief of Apalachicola. - Donald Albury 18:53, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Moving article

If there is no objection in the next week, I intend to rename this article to Apalachicola Province (parallel to Apalachee Province). As noted above, "Apalachicola" is used much more often in sources to refer to a place or region than to a "people", and the most common name for the region is "Apalachicola Province". I have almost completed work on an article to be named Apalachicola (tribal town), which covers the second most common use of "Apalachicola", and complements this article. - Donald Albury 15:31, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]