Talk:Antenatal depression

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Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 23 September 2019 and 13 December 2019. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Jinaminjunglee, Jtbrooks333, LiangEm, Tiffpham. Peer reviewers: KLReyes.

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Male perspective

Can anyone help with writing the effects on the father if they have antenatal depression?^[1]

References

^ Fathers and depression

CP133 2019 Group 9 proposed edits

* - Start a new section on costs of untreated antenatal mood/anxiety disorder
* - Expand on the causes or make a section on epidemiology, add missing citation
* - Add resources section that helps with PMADs
* - Research more and expand on the treatment section
* - Add section about screening for antenatal depression
* - Add male perspective section LiangEm (talk) 02:54, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
* - Transfer statistical statements from Causes section to introduction or epidemiology section
* - Add genetics and risk factors to Causes section
* - Add subcategories "Non-pharmacological Therapy" or "Life-style Changes" & "Pharmacological Therapy" or "Medications" under Treatment section
* - Add section on pregnancy outcomes Jinaminjunglee (talk) 04:49, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tiffpham (talk) 03:04, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

CP133 2019 Group 8 peer reviews

Group 9 definitely improved the article, although its hard to know exactly which parts of the article they contributed to. It also doesn't appear that they achieved all of the goals they laid out. This could be that their ambitions were really high but ended up being too many edits and so they narrowed their approach. For example, they said they wanted to start a new section on costs of untreated antenatal depression but I don't see one. It could also be that someone else reverted their additions. Group 9 did succeed in adding a section about screening. I think this section adds great utility for readers because it informs them of what might be done if they suspect they have antenatal depression. I think this section could be improved by using simpler sentences. The paragraphs are very wordy with jargon that may be hard for lay people to follow. I think the article represents a supporting point of view for women with antenatal depression, but I feel the article may paint the condition in a bad light in the opening sections. For example, the article mentions multiple times that mood swings, body image, financial situations, unintended pregnancy, etc are possible causes of antenatal depression. I'm afraid that a woman reading this who has an unintended pregnancy may start to blame herself and be ashamed to seek help. It might be useful to point out that this is a natural thing that happens to some people and maybe talk about distributions across socioeconomic and racial backgrounds. Great job!!! -KLReyes (talk) 22:17, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Overall I believe the article is improved even though not all of the goals they set for themselves were met. I believe the goals were quite lofty, and therefore do not think that makes these overall edits unsuccessful. The pregnancy outcomes and male-perspective section additions complete the page well, but I think the most informative addition was the Non-pharmacological category update. Adding to this section I think would be most suitable to our expertise and was definitely lacking prior to group 9's edits. The edit style does seem consistent with the wikipedia manual style. The page is consistent with its headings, subheadings, and bullet point formatting. I especially was impressed with how this was done on the Non-pharmacological subsection edits and the male perspective new section edits. Overall great additions!Mblyumin (talk) 00:19, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Group 9 did a great job so far of improving this article, and they're definitely making progress through their goals. They added well cited information on prevalence and epidemiology, additional risk factors for antenatal depression, and effect on infant health & health outcomes. The information added is well referenced and formatted clearly. I did not find any evidence of plagiarism or copyright violations; all information added was cited from a solid, tertiary source and summarized in a concise way to convey a point. For example, Jina summarized the main point of a literature review into one sentence to talk about a perspective, but also provided a neutral point of view by providing the alternative opposing evidence. They've definitely done a great job so far, to further improve the articles they can continue to work through their goals- adding genetic risk factors, costs of treatment, etc. Chenviv (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:53, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: LGBTQ Reproductive Health

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 29 August 2022 and 21 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Daisychild (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Daisychild (talk) 22:46, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gender inclusive page

Hi everyone! Happy to be in this space with you all. I am hoping to make this page more inclusive to represent the experiences of all expectant, gestational parents. More specifically, I hope to appropriately represent the experiences of LGBTQ+ pregnant persons who go through antenatal depression in a way that is specific to their identities. Happy to collaborate and learn from you. Cheers! Daisychild (talk)

Welcome, Daisychild! I'm looking forward to seeing what you add. Please remember to add new comments to the bottom of talk pages (not the top) and to sign your posts using four tildes. Just so you are aware of an issue that has come up previously with students taking the course you are taking now, other students have tried to make entire articles on pregnancy-related topics use gender-neutral language. These attempts are usually reverted and I really really really don't recommend doing it. Adding new, well sourced information on transgender health care would be welcome, however. Take care, Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 05:05, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the following sentence. It suggests that people menstruate during pregnancy, which is obviously incorrect. The sentence is also structured in a way that makes it unclear what is causing what.

"Gender dysphoria can be triggered by the weaning off of testosterone where transgender men experience menstruation and chest tissue growth during the pregnancy.^[1]"

I also removed the following sentence as I don't think the source supports it, although it sounds plausible:

"It can also be triggered by the practices of misgendering in clinical environments.^[1]"

If you could quote the exact sentence(s) which support this claim, I will re-instate it. Best, Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 04:37, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK, after looking more closely at the source I see the source does support this particular sentence, although you'll need to be careful to maintain due weight relative to other triggers of antenatal depression. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 05:43, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ ^a ^b MacLean, Lori Rebecca-Diane (April 2021). "Preconception, Pregnancy, Birthing, and Lactation Needs of Transgender Men". Nursing for Women's Health. 25 (2): 129–138. doi:10.1016/j.nwh.2021.01.006.

[1] Fathers and depression

[:2-2] MacLean, Lori Rebecca-Diane (April 2021). "Preconception, Pregnancy, Birthing, and Lactation Needs of Transgender Men". Nursing for Women's Health. 25 (2): 129–138. doi:10.1016/j.nwh.2021.01.006.

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