Talk:Ansatsuken
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Ansatsuken
[edit]Hey, there used to be a nifty article here about the "Ansatsuken" fighting style in the Street Fighter series. What happened to it? Do I really have to make an account and fix this page? If somebody decided the information about a fictional martial art is unencyclopedic, then what about the articles for other Street Fighter characters and techniques that reference this art? I'm not entirely sure what to do here and I'm not feeling particularly bold at the moment. --65.13.17.229 04:40, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- If you're talking about Goutetsu-ryuu Ansatsuken, Wikipedia has rules against original research, which is what that article was. Danny Lilithborne 08:47, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm a new guy who doesn't know anything about wikipedia: What about it violated research? It was informative, helpful, and provided information. Like the freaking site is supposed to. THIS is a page which provides no information beyond a term which could be gleaned from an online dictionary.
- "Original Research" is a stupid term Wikipedia uses that means unverifiable information or made up stuff. Much of the original article was garbage simply made up by the author(s) of the article, including the erroneous assumption that Street Fighter made up the word Ansatsuken. Evan1975 03:49, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
A lot of the information can be found on individual pages for the moves (Hadouken, Shoryuken, Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku) previously listed in that article. So the information isn't completely lost. Nickoten 01:19, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
- Ansatsuken is not even the name of Ryu and Ken's fighting style at all, contrary to popular belief (their fighting style is not even a real ansatsuken at all, but a toned version of Gouki's style). Its really more of a general term, although it should be obvious just by the fact that Gen's unrelated fighting style is also described as an "ansatsuken" Jonny2x4 (talk) 07:06, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Gouken, Ryu, Ken, Sakura ALL Pratice Ansatsuken "a martial art rooted in the assassination arts"
[edit]It's been comfirmed that the true style they pratice is actually Anasatsuken in this interview: http://www.capcom-unity.com/street_fighter/go/thread/view/7411/626401/Street_Fighter_4_FAQ__READ_FIRST After the clearing up of the time line and Shen Long —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.225.161 (talk) 09:43, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Reply, technically you're right and wrong
[edit]Its obvious you didn't do your homework well.
- First of all, that FAQ is not actually written by the game designers working on Street Fighter IV or any of the previous Japanese produced games, but a moderator working for Capcom Unity, which is nothing more than an officially sponsored fansite which happens to be hosted on Capcom's forum.
- Capcom Unity is a Capcom USA site, who are the same people who insisted on listing "Shotokan Karate" as Ryu and Ken's fighting styles in the earlier games and Kabaddi as Dhalsim's fighting style. Yeah, I wouldn't trust them for canon facts 100%.
- Ansatsuken in Japan, as mentioned in the article, is a general term for any martial art that kills an opponent, and not exclusively to Ryu and Ken's style. Even the FAQ more or less mentions that (it says It should also be noted that Ansatsuken isn't so much a style as a application of a style as Ansatsuken loosely translates to "Style With The Killing Intent" which can be applied to any fighting style really), but the FAQ still makes the mistake of using "Ansatsuken" as a synonym for Ryu and Ken's fighting style. For the record, Gi-ryu and Sou-ryu, Gen's two fighting styles, and El Gado's Soubi Sasoriken in Final Fight Revenge, are all described as ansatsuken in All About Capcom Head-to-Head Fighting Game encyclopedia, which compiles all the official backstories Capcom's staff wrote in Japan for all their arcade fighting games.
- Street Fighter IV Master Guide, a strategy guide published by Arcadia, list Ryu, Ken, and Gouken's fighting styles as a "martial art with roots as an assassination art (or assassination fist to be more literal)" (暗殺拳をルーツとした格闘術). Gouki's style is listed as "unknown".
Yeah, a lot of people, including (sadly) employees of Capcom USA, has misinterpreted the term ansatsuken as the name of Ryu and Ken's fighting style, when its really a general term. One Samurai Shodown character named Tashon Mao also uses a fighting style called Hakken Ansatsuken (see here). In English, they translated this style as the "Assassin Arts of Hakken" here). It has appeared in other fighting games as well. So really "Ansatsuken" is a general term, not a specific fighting style. Jonny2x4 (talk) 16:29, 1 January 2009 (UTC)