Talk:Annales de la Société entomologique de France

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On 22 March 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Annales de la Société Entomologique de France to Annales de la Société entomologique de France. The result of the discussion was moved.

Requested move 22 March 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 23:24, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Annales de la Société Entomologique de France → Annales de la Société entomologique de France – Even though the one volume in the infobox has a capitalized Entomologique, this is not the standard way the periodical is capitalized. See the current cover on https://www.tandfonline.com/toc/tase20/current (which also shows how Taylor and Francis capitalizes), see articles in the journal which refer to itself, e.g., doi:10.1080/00379271.2021.1899494 Membre du Comité Scientifique des Annales de la Société entomologique de France, how it's treated by BHL or Persée, see how it's referred to by the Société entomologique de France's own website, or how English-language journals like Nature (e.g., doi:10.1038/s41598-017-06212-0) refer to it in bibliographies. Also, compare fr:Société entomologique de France La société fait paraître les Annales de la Société entomologique de France et le Bulletin de la Société entomologique de France. Also importantly see MOS:FRENCHCAPS and note that entomologique is an adjective following a noun, so by neither method would it be capitalized. Umimmak (talk) 21:28, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Headbomb: see here, and in particular see the present cover: [1], [2]. Umimmak (talk) 21:48, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support, the argument is convincing that the dominant use is Annales de la Société entomologique de France. However, "an adjective following a noun" is irrelevant to capitalization in French, capitalization is completely arbitrary, done to the preference of whoever capitalizes. Case in point, see https://www.babelio.com/couv/bm_CVT_Les-Liaisons-dangereuses_5486.jpg (Les Liaisons dangeureuses) vs https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51-BZZFRV5L._SL500_.jpg (Les liaisons dangeureuses) vs https://kbimages1-a.akamaihd.net/1b1b2d51-404d-4cad-a181-8b581986914c/353/569/90/False/les-liaisons-dangereuses-or-letters-collected-in-a-private-society-and-published-for-the-instruction-of-others.jpg (Les Liaisons Dangeureuses). We should also find a cover that matches the capitalization. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:54, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per MOS:FRENCHCAPS. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:20, 23 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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