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Untitled

Much better quality image here but I don't know about copywrite.

Burmese name

Myant Myant Aye cannot be right as there is no such name as Myant in Burmese. It's got to be either Myint (high) or Myat (noble). Therefore Aye is not high either;it means cool, so the other way round instead. Not "Cool,Cool,High" but "High,High,Cool" or "Noble,Noble,Cool" as the case may be. I suspect the same mistake has been repeated often enough, it's now "official". Wagaung 15:08, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, if this is true, wikipedia can only reflect what has already been published and it seems many articles have published the version Myant Myant Aye. If you can find a valid reference then by all means change this. Regards SeanMack 15:24, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This interview states:

“

Is it true that your real birth name is actually Myant Myant Aye (Burmese for “cool, cool, high”)?! ”Yes, but Burmese is a very different culture because it’s in the Far East so it’s just a translation. Our whole culture – in the Buddhist way of life - is that boys go into the monastery and little girls go and get their ears pierced. So, the boys have their heads shaved and then become monks for a period of time to learn the disciplines of that. So, I had my ears pierced and that was the name that was given to me by the Burmese priest.

”

as does this one. Cheers. SeanMack 15:40, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The equivalent to a baptism in Burmese Buddhist custom is confined to a shinbyu (novitiation) for boys only, when they receive a new name for the duration . Your horoscope is drawn on the calculations done based on the time and date of birth, so it can't be done before you are born. Superstitious parents won't even accept gifts for the unborn baby. Monks are not involved in naming laypeople, only new novices and newly ordained monks, unless they dabble in astrology and horoscopes, and an ear-piercing ceremony is not a 'christening' one. ^[1] She certainly has a very strange understanding/recollection of Burmese culture. There just is no such word as myant in the Burmese language, but myat (noble), myint (high) and mya (emerald) are close and common names. And aye means cool, cold , quiet, calm or peaceful. Look up any dictionary. Just because she said so unfortunately doesn't make it right.

^ Shway Yoe (Sir J G Scott) (1882). The Burman - his life and notions. New York: The Norton Library (1965). pp. 8, 21, 48.

Wagaung 19:54, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see. Dunno what to do about this one - possibly remove the info, or describe it as what she says - and note that it doesn't match up to the actual language and custom? Think it's worth an email to the address on here? SeanMack 11:32, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps it's worthwhile. It could be left as it is, though Burmese who read this would see the funny side of it and it doesn't reflect too well on her grasp of the language. I'll leave it to you. Wagaung 17:34, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Myant" is not a Burmese word. "Myint" on the other hand does mean "high or tall", and "Aye" means "cool". So the name "Myint Myint Aye" means "High High Cool". If her name really means "Cool Cool High" as reported, then it's "Aye Aye Myint", not "Myint Myint Aye". At any rate, "Myant Myant Aye" simplyy isn't a Burmese name. While I also am suspcious of Annabella's command of Burmese but I can't believe her father would have spelled it that way. It's more likely that she just didn't want to dwell on the subject--the meaning of her Burmese name--in the interview.

And with good reason. Though Burmese names have root meanings like "Cool Cool High", to most people, they are just names. In everyday use, no one thinks about the root meaning of a name just as few in the West will look into the root meaning of "Michael" (who is like God) or "Sean" (God is merciful).

Hybernator 22:42, 30 December 2006 (UTC)Hybernator[reply]

It's nonsense. Her real name is, in fact, Annabella Lwin. Her father was Burmese and her mother from Devon chose the name Annabella. The idea that she had a Burmese name which was Myant Myant Aye was just a publicity stunt dreamed up by Malcolm McClaren. This was all confirmed by Annabella herself when she was interviewed by Mark Radcliffe recently. (BBC 6 Music "Radcliffe & Maconie" broadcast 12th August 2016).

Coercion?

In a LiveJournal post, someone said that Annabella Lwin was "forced" to pose nude on the album cover. Does anyone have any evidence to support this? - Ugliness Man 04:58, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can't find any evidence of coercion but there are several internet sources that say Lwin's mother sued Malcolm McLaren for child exploitation.

There is nothing to substantiate the claims and none states whether the alleged suit was successful. - Persnickety 06:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Date of Birth

What is the correct date? Wiki says: 31 October 1965 but the Internet Movie Database says: 31 October 1956 86.41.132.157 (talk) 15:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, she was born in 1966. She joined the band Bow Wow Wow shortly after turning 14 years old in 1980. ExRat (talk) 00:37, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

'Do What You Do' was released in 1994

Why does the article state that 'Do What You Do' ('Do What U Do') was never given an official release? What is the evidence for this claim? It was released on vinyl and CD by Sony in 1994 - see for example http://www.discogs.com/Annabella-Lwin-Do-What-You-Do/master/134936 SteveDavey (talk) 15:07, 29 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Name Pronunciation?

Lwin is a sufficiently unusual name that its proper pronunciation ought to be mentioned. I've always assumed it's like "Lou In" but actually have no idea.
--OBloodyHell (talk) 20:59, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Le Déjeuner sur l’herbe

I put the Bow Wow Wow version of Le Déjeuner sur l’herbe in Annabella's article, and David Gerard (talk) removed it, saying it violates "Fair use." I kinda disagree with that. To me, that image is fairly important when talking about the early days of Bow Wow Wow, and how Annabella was exploited. It provides a "See what I mean?" in the telling of the story, and adds a lot to it. But I won't argue; I just wanna know if I'm looking at this incorrectly. Johnny Spasm (talk) 11:10, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The WP:FAIRUSE rules are super-stringent, and I don't think it'd pass really - David Gerard (talk) 16:23, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It just seems a bit bizarre to me to talk about an image, and not use the image. Especially since it is already on wikipedia for use in the article about the albums with this cover. I kinda think sticking with other Bow Wow Wow articles constitutes fair use. Johnny Spasm (talk) 16:34, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicate info

There's a lot of information duplicated between this article and the article for Bow Wow Wow — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.171.39.12 (talk) 07:40, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Shway Yoe (Sir J G Scott) (1882). The Burman - his life and notions. New York: The Norton Library (1965). pp. 8, 21, 48.

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