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Anna Palmer's notability established

@CommanderWaterford:

Wikipedia:Notability_(people), under "Additional criteria", says:

"People are likely to be notable if they meet any of the following standards. Failure to meet these criteria is not conclusive proof that a subject should not be included; conversely, meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included. ..."

...then goes on to list these criteria for Creative professionals ("Authors, editors, journalists, filmmakers, photographers, artists, architects, and other creative professionals"):

1."The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors." (See the refs cited below.)
2."The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique." (Probaby not applicable, here)
3."The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work... or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." (In the article, see the multiple reference citations to numerous major media reviews of, and articles about, her best-selling book, A Hill to Die On).
4."The person's work (or works) has:

(a) become a significant monument,

(b) been a substantial part of a significant exhibition,

(c) won significant critical attention, or

(d) been represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums.

(Again, note "c." applies, because of both the book reviews and the reviews of her work at Politico, as cited below, and in independent-reference-backed notations in the article.)

As to recognition, note the way her role at Politico has been described by various independent, notable sources:

"Anna Palmer and Jake Sherman... will stop writing Politico’s Playbook... influential tipsheet among Beltway insiders,"

~ Columbia Journalism Review (the journal of journalism).

"Does America Really Need More Inside-the-Beltway Journalism? "Three stars... leaving Politico to start... own D.C. scoop factory... "Jake Sherman and Anna Palmer... writers of Politico Playbook... infamous Beltway tipsheet [which has] tracked who’s up and... down in D.C. for... seeming eternity, ..."

~The New Republic

"Since taking over the [Politico Playbook] newsletter in 2016... the... authors, ... have been somewhat polarizing... in their work helming the [company's] signature product: [They are] credited by some for saving the newsletter; criticized by others...

~Daily Beast

"Anna Palmer... senior Washington correspondent [at] POLITICO... co-author of POLITICO’s Playbook, [which is] the most indispensable morning newsletter [read by] the biggest influencers in politics. [She] has successfully chronicled... Washington insiders for years. ... behind the scenes [of] the biggest fights in Washington...

~ "Institute of Politics and Public Serivce at Georgetown University,

repeated by: ~ U.S. Chamber of Commerce Foundation

Note how her Punchbowl News is described even by one of her own prominent competitors, speaking to the New York Times:

[Speaking of Palmer's Puncbbowl News',']:

“They’ll be an instant must-read,” said Jim VandeHei, who... left Politico to start Axios. He then not-so-subtly added the friendly suggestion that Punchbowl stay out of his lane. “I think it’ll be the most successful independent newsletter created in 2021 if they stay small and minimalist and if they focus tightly on Capitol Hill.”

~New York Times

When her Alma Mater convened a panel of four alumni-journalists, they placed her along with two who have Wikipedia pages already: Jason DeRose and Gretchen Morgenson.

"The State of Journalism and Reporting in 2020: Ole alumni panel and discussion", March 5, 2021, St. Olaf College News

She was among four women honored with the 2020 Washington Women in Journalism Awards The other three are all subjects of their own respective Wikipedia articles: Molly Ball, Rita Braver and Kristen Welker.

Her (junior) partner, Jake Sherman (journalist), has his own Wikipedia article.

Her "Other involvements" listed in the article, alone -- United Nations, World Economic Forum, etc., and punditry on nearly every major U.S. network -- could be grounds for WP:NOTABILITY.

Though I'm no fan, there's simply no avoiding including her in the ranks of Wikipedia notables in Washington journalism.

~ Penlite (talk) 18:02, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Categories added

@CommanderWaterford:: Numerous categories have been added, as requested. They were drawn from (or paralleled) categories listed in the articles about her peers named above -- including fairly specific categories (e.g.: "Politico people" and "St. Olaf alumni.") ~ Penlite (talk) 23:10, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]