Talk:Anna Letenská
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Murdered or executed?
[edit]Was she murdered at random, or was she sentenced to death under the laws in effect at the time and executed in accordance with the laws in effect at the time? Perhaps someone who knows more about legal issues can answer this question (66.162.249.170 (talk) 07:45, 16 May 2011 (UTC))
- My sources don't explain that, but many people died without any explanation after Heydrich's assassination. It was a brutal and uncompromising response to the Czechoslovak nation/Czechoslovak Resistance movement. Villages were wiped out from the earth without a serious and proper investigation. The Germans didn't need an excuse or law for their actions and murdering. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 08:49, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
- The law in effect at the time was presumably the law as implemented by the Secretary of State for the German Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, including executive orders issued in response to Heydrich's assassination such as Hitler's instruction to eliminate any village found to have harboured Heydrich's killers. There's the law, and then there's the law. Words don't always have the meaning they're supposed to have. Discussion of the legal niceties seems rather irrelevant in this context. Given that specific instructions were given to take even the surviving children of Lidice to Chelmno to be gassed it seems rather unlikely that an individual who sheltered someone who had helped one of Heydrich's killers was going to experience a random death, even murder, rather than be executed. Opbeith (talk) 17:45, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
- The Radio Praha article by Elena Horálková [1] states that Anna Letenská was "fusilada" at Mauthausen on 24 October 1942. I can't find the Czech original and wouldn't be able tor read it if I could but the Spanish wording implies execution by firing squad. Opbeith (talk) 18:01, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
- It was a single innocent letter that caused burning of Lidice and killing its inhabitants. It was immediatelly clear to Gestapo that there's no connection between the village and the assassination. Yet Nazis decided to destroy the village, solely in order to show Czechs that they'll pay dearly for any resistance. Of course, the decision was probably administratively arranged with German perfection. According to Motl's materials, Letenská was shot to the occiput by handgun (Dne 24. října 1942 v 10:56 hod. byla Anna Letenská zastřelena v bunkru ranou z pistole do týla...). Stanislav Motl is an excellent investigative journalist, in my country he is known as "Nazi hunter" (though he doesn't like this nickname). His interpretations are a bit sensational (he worked for a long time in a popular investigative TV programme of a major commercial TV channel in the Czech Rep.), but I believe his work with facts is precise and correct. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 06:51, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- The Radio Praha article by Elena Horálková [1] states that Anna Letenská was "fusilada" at Mauthausen on 24 October 1942. I can't find the Czech original and wouldn't be able tor read it if I could but the Spanish wording implies execution by firing squad. Opbeith (talk) 18:01, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. It sounds as though Motl's account is likely to have been based on his own research and there's no indication that the short article by Horálková is based on any more authoritative source. However impeccably the administrative formalities were observed, the fact of the matter is that the Nazi machine devised a framework of legal procedure that justified committing even the most terrible of crimes.Opbeith (talk) 08:33, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- Motl works also for the Czech Radio (the publisher of the article in Spanish). It is possible that Horálková translated his concept to Spanish (?). A major part of the article is based on his conclusions published in the book Mraky nad Barrandovem (Clouds over Barrandov), describing the participation of Czech filmmakers in the Protectorate. As far as I know, he made the only serious attempt to investigate the events properly. Moreover, his investigations are widely published and respected in the Czech media. In my opinion he is definitely reliable for Wikipedia. Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 09:06, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. It sounds as though Motl's account is likely to have been based on his own research and there's no indication that the short article by Horálková is based on any more authoritative source. However impeccably the administrative formalities were observed, the fact of the matter is that the Nazi machine devised a framework of legal procedure that justified committing even the most terrible of crimes.Opbeith (talk) 08:33, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
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