Talk:Ann Alexander (ship)
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Nantucket question
[edit]The USS Nantucket (1862) is the only ship by that name that I can find. That's not to say that there was not another Nantucket 10 years earlier, but it does draw this article into doubt. That said, there's some general editing that this page could use. Could someone with the appropriate research materials look up the appropriate info? -Harmil 14:21, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
This page needs editing, because it implies that Melville's "Moby-Dick" was a contemporary success at the time when Ann Alexander was stove by a whale. In fact, Melville's book was mostly poorly received by critics at the time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.30.168.5 (talk) 23:36, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Misplaced book review
[edit]I didn't see any reason the article needed a review of Moby Dick, so I removed it. The text is here:
- Despite the almost serendipitous timing of the sinking of the Ann Alexander and the publication of Moby-Dick, the incident did nothing to promote the novel, nor did it offset the scathing reviews it received, first from London critics and then echoed by their easily influenced American counterparts. A critic for the highly regarded London Athenaeum, described it as:
"[A]n ill-compounded mixture of romance and matter-of-fact. The idea of a connected and collected story has obviously visited and abandoned its writer again and again in the course of composition. The style of his tale is in places disfigured by mad (rather than bad) English; and its catastrophe is hastily, weakly, and obscurely managed."[1]
in case someone wishes to find a new home for itTjoeC (talk) 03:25, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
Please sort out this confusing apparent conflict
[edit]Please sort out this confusing apparent conflict.
The article currently tells us:
While an accidental collision with a sperm whale at night accounted for sinking of the Union in 1807,[6] the Essex incident some 30 years prior was the only other documented case of a ship being deliberately attacked, holed and sunk by a whale.
But this immediately follows a citation of a book about another sinking by a whale, that of Bark Kathleen:
^ Jenkins, Thomas H (1902). Bark Kathleen sunk by a whale, to which is added an account of two like occurrences, the loss of ships Ann Alexander and Essex. New Bedford, MA: Hutchinson. pp. 31–34.
It may well be that the wording is technically correct (for instance, maybe a 'Bark' is not a 'ship'?), but even if that is so, the article still needs amending to avoid confusing uninformed readers such as me. Tlhslobus (talk) 01:21, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
Early History as WP:EXTRAORDINARY?
[edit]Is the Early History section a case for WP:EXTRAORDINARY, requiring either 'according to', or at least two reliable sources whereas here we have at most one reliable source, and possibly none? According to a 1912 book, seemingly consisting of 'oral history', a boat made famous in 1851 suddenly is found at Trafalgar in 1805, and with the same alleged commander in 1807 survives unscathed three seizures by privateers in a single journey, and we are reporting all this as 'fact', when common sense would lead one to suspect the presence of tall stories. Tlhslobus (talk) 01:36, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- Due to the above, I've now added 'According to a 1912 account' at the start of both paragraphs. Tlhslobus (talk) 01:48, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
- This claimed 1805 encounter is now assessed in a new paper and I have edited accordingly, with a few other tidbits from other sources. Davidships (talk) 15:50, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
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