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NPOV

Seeing as how there are no sources here, I edited the page for bias.

Zos 04:25, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Did egyptian priests normally create their funeral stelae themselves? I don't recall seeing this in the Revue article, though I could have missed it. Dan 06:11, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

how about some references from archeologists and anthropologists in this article? After all, if this is the name of a historical persona, then the historical anthropological information should take precedence over the use of the name by a more modern magickian. a few small references to Crowley's use of the name would be sufficient I think to show the connection, but this article appears to be mostly about Crowley.

Indeed, the first sentance has a little information about the actual historical persona, but after that, there is no egyptian historical information at all. If this is to be an article about crowley, it needs to be moved.

--Arkayne Magii 00:49, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How so? He seems historically important mainly for his connection to Crowley and Thelema. The article includes the one wholly non-Thelemic reference that I know of (not that I would necessarily know if archeologists wrote about him). Feel free to add more information if you find references. Dan 21:54, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re the NPOV template: like I said, if you see bias here, add some information on this mythical non-Thelemic perspective. Or explain where the article asserts any POV as fact. Dan 07:46, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Translation of the name

I removed the following paragraph:

Sr. Lutea, writing in The Scarlet Letter, explains some of the words in his name:

A translation of the name might be close to the following: Ankh is both a tool and a symbol meaning 'new life.' The hyphen af is always part of another word that lends exclamatory force.^[1] The word, na is generally used as a preposition, such as 'to, for, belonging to, through, or because.' Khonsu was the adopted son of Amun and Mut from the Theban triad. His name comes from a word meaning, 'to cross over' or 'wanderer' or 'he who traverses.' So, his entire name may be translated as 'the truth that has crossed over.^[2]

Lutea's interpretation is a free one that Egyptologists would tend to reject. A modern Egyptological approach would translate - [I kept what came after].

Reasoning: I am aware that this stela is of religious relevance to some. However, the name of the person the stela was made for means what it means. It is a straightforward Egyptian sentence with no room for error. If you feel strongly that the above needs to be referenced somewhere, please build it into the Thelema section with the right qualifiers. In a general section of the meaning of the name - if we have to have one at all - only the actual meaning of the name should appear leaving modern religious interpretations to any section that deals with those.

MikuChan39 (talk) 02:29, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

^ sic; in fact the =f in Egyptian is nothing more than the singular masculine suffix pronoun "he." It does not carry any "exclamatory force."
^ Sr. Lutea. (2002). "Who And What Are Those Egyptian References In Liber Resh? Archived 2020-11-12 at the Wayback Machine". The Scarlet Letter, Vol. VII, No. 2.

[1] sic; in fact the =f in Egyptian is nothing more than the singular masculine suffix pronoun "he." It does not carry any "exclamatory force."

[2] Sr. Lutea. (2002). "Who And What Are Those Egyptian References In Liber Resh? Archived 2020-11-12 at the Wayback Machine". The Scarlet Letter, Vol. VII, No. 2.

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