Talk:Anglo-Saxons (slur)

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Odd Title?

So this article specifically refers to the Russian term "Англосаксы", but with the title of "Anglo-Saxons (slur)" it makes it seem like using "Anglo-Saxons" as a derogatory term is a new Russian invention. But in the White Anglo-Saxon Protestants article it already describes how "Anglo-Saxon" was used as one against anglophones.

"Before WASP came into use in the 1960s, the term Anglo-Saxon served some of the same purposes. Like the newer term WASP, the older term Anglo-Saxon was used derisively by writers hostile to an informal alliance between Britain and the U.S. The negative connotation was especially common among Irish Americans and writers in France."
"Irish-American humorist Finley Peter Dunne popularized the ridicule of "Anglo-Saxons", even calling President Theodore Roosevelt one."
"Charles de Gaulle repeatedly sought to "rid France of Anglo-Saxon influence""

Wouldn't it make more sense to change the title to "Anglosaksy", the actual word of the slur (or also Anglo-Saxons (Russian slur)), or otherwise merge information between the two articles? Make this a section in the WASP article about its use in Russia, or move the information about its use as a slur to here? Aye-I-Eye (talk) 00:00, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

These are some good points. Maybe the latter proposal would work? HappyWith (talk) 16:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are confusing several things. The "WASP" article is referring mainly to a social class that used to dominate American politics, industry and academia, and the term itself (or at least the acronym) was coined nearly 60 years ago at a time when this class's influence was declining. That article, which is not very high in quality as it is, is already confusing enough without bringing Russia into it.

The way that Russia seems to be using this term is to refer to citizens of "English-speaking countries." It doesn't seem to have much to do with ancestry, wealth or social status, but is rather a derogatory term of propaganda used to marginalize people living in the Anglosphere from the rest of Europe or 'the West'. This article does not imply that the mere existence of the term is novel, but that the way that it is used by Russians is different and even 'strange.' Jonathan f1 (talk) 19:20, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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