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A fact from Angelle (singer) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 15 March 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that the British entrepreneur Sarah Bennett went from being "one of the biggest flops in pop history" to appearing on the Sunday Times Rich List 2017?
A fact from Angelle (singer) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 30 March 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that Angelle's debut single was promoted with an entire television channel – and still only reached number 43 on the UK Singles Chart?
The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
Overall: ALT2 is not interesting, so I have struck it; my preference is for ALT1, both for interest and BLP reasons. I'm not entirely sure that the article should be titled with her stage name, which she seems to have used for around six years at most and not in the past two decades, but that's not under the purview of DYK. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:43, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer, AirshipJungleman29, and PrimalMustelid: I'm sorry I didn't catch this earlier, but Angelle (singer) has multiple BLP problems. The Sunday Mercury is a tabloid, so I'd be very very hestitant to use it, but even if it were reliable, the "pop insider" was misquoted in the article and not even attributed in the hook, which is a huge red flag for a negative aspersion about a BLP. She wasn't the flop, a specific performance she gave was described by an anonymous source to a tabloid as a flop. That's very different, and on (DYK)BLP and V grounds, I'm pulling this. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:26, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You caught me literally two minutes after I closed my lid; I did seriously consider saying "let's knock this prep set back by a day and I'll review the next one", and I'm annoyed that I didn't. I've taken out the Sunday Mercury and most of the Mirror (they're not seriously getting TV listings wrong, are they?). I just found Chart-watch.uk, which appears to be the blog of James Masterton, an WP:EXPERTSPS, so that could be used for ALT0, alternatively ALT3: ... that the British entrepreneur Sarah Bennett went from a flop music career to appearing on the Sunday Times Rich List 2017?--Launchballer09:51, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For posterity, I meant laptop lid... ALT4: ... that future Sunday Times Rich List 2017 entrant Angelle's 2002 debut single was promoted with an entire television channel - and still only made No. 43 on the UK Singles Chart? (Ref 8, the Times, for the Rich List, Ref 4, the Guardian, for the channel, and either Chart-watch.uk or Ref 6, the Official Charts Company, for the chart position.)--Launchballer19:03, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd go with something like ALT4a: ... that Angelle's debut single was promoted with an entire television channel – and still only reached 43rd on the UK Singles Chart? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 21:11, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fine by me, with one tweak: ALT4b: ... that Angelle's debut single was promoted with an entire television channel – and still only made No. 43 on the UK Singles Chart? (or 'could still only manage')--Launchballer21:14, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I thought what I wrote was a fair summary of the source, although I agree that the "amazingly slick" quote would be better in wikivoice, meaning the sentence should now flow a bit better. Were there any phrases you objected to? Cut right down. Also:
Approving hook Alt 4C which can be promoted. Looks like the earlier concerns about sourcing were addressed by Launchballer who removed the questionable material from the article. 4meter4 (talk) 16:53, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2 is not interesting, so I have struck it; my preference is for ALT1, both for interest and BLP reasons. I'm not entirely sure that the article should be titled with her stage name, which she seems to have used for around six years at most and not in the past two decades, but that's not under the purview of DYK. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:43, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
Leeky appears to be busy, so could someone else approve ALT4 please?--Launchballer 01:36, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
Approving hook Alt 4C which can be promoted. Looks like the earlier concerns about sourcing were addressed by Launchballer who removed the questionable material from the article. 4meter4 (talk) 16:53, 21 March 2024 (UTC)