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Blood Type

Am I the only person weired out by the fact her blood type is on this page? Yanksox 20:38, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at the profiles of many Chinese singers online, they do in fact list the singers' blood type. It's not uncommon to have this information on their CD inside covers. Arsonal 23:01, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow good work guys, a lot of changes since I last visited this page. Good work too all of you who contributed, espicially IceDevil. XD--64.230.80.158 02:46, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

YouTube links

This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed or you would like to help spread this message contact us on this page. Thanks, ---J.S (t|c) 05:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Which city in Canada?

It gives a disambiguation page for her high school, may need to clarify.

Fair use rationale for Image:Angela over the rainbow.jpg

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BetacommandBot 21:31, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wade-Giles

Can we remove the "This is a Chinese name; the family name is Chang (張). " and replace it with a Wade-Giles like all other pages do? It's confusing the way it is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.20.200.64 (talk) 06:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:12, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is more like it. At least reasons are given now. Now don't revert continuosly my edits without stating why. And then block me for no good reason. -121.7.200.93 (talk) 07:55, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the block was more of a procedural thing as constantly reverting each others' edits is discouraged. However, I still can't believe you guys were fighting over a...picture. -__- Pandacomics (talk) 16:53, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, that message was auto-generated by a bot. There's no point in arguing with it as it can't respond. In addition, it has been Wikipedia policy to remove album covers from discography lists as it uses an excessive amount of fair use images. Arsonal (talk) 22:02, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is a matter of principle by sticking to the guns. Bots are dumb and inflexible as any questionable actions cannot be answered. And reason is already noted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spansign (talk • contribs) 01:42, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Angela Chang.jpg

Image:Angela Chang.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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Zhang Vs. Chang

Just stumbled across this article today and I'm just curious as to why the actual article uses "Chang" as her default surname? Angela Zhang is redirected to Angel Chang currently. I think it's obvious to anyone who knows Chinese that her surname "張" is "Zhang" in Hanyu pinyin, and not "Chang". Shouldn't Chang be directed to Zhang instead? 202.156.201.149 (talk) 03:57, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because Taiwan doesn't use Hanyu Pinyin. Pandacomics (talk) 07:29, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chang even more diverts from the actual sound. So let's use Zhang. -Spansign (talk) 07:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So? "Qiu" sounds more like "Chiou", but in English, q, when used with u, sounds like "k". Taiwan does not use Pinyin, so let's not try enforcing the standard of one region onto all Mandarin-speaking regions. Pandacomics (talk) 11:04, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

She herself (and many other Chinese celebrities named 张) uses Chang when referring to herself in English. You'll see the same thing with most Chinese singers, especially ones not from the mainland-- Wang Lee-hom for 王力宏, Teresa Teng for 邓丽君, Shin for 信了团, Karen Mok for 莫文蔚, Jay Chou for 周杰伦, etc. And it's not just with singers, but also scholars (James Tai, a linguist, for example--his name is 戴). Pinyin is a pronunciation aid, but is not always the standard for what people use to present themselves to the non-Chinese-speaking world. --Politizer (talk) 00:16, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Taiwan uses Hanyu Pinyin as of 2009, and Zhang seems more accurate though. XJonneh (talk) 16:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's not really a matter of what Taiwan officially uses, but what she herself uses. Her name is 张韶涵, everything else is basically just a nickname, so "Angela Zhang" isn't accurate just because it uses Hanyu Pinyin; it's still just a nickname. Since "Angela Chang" is the nickname she uses on album covers, etc., that's the one we should use here. If her next album, or some other official publications, say "Angela Zhang," then maybe we could consider switching...but don't hold your breath for that to happen.

AFAIK, there's no precedent for switching artist's names over to Pinyin versions. I would be hesitant to change "Angela Chang" to "Angela Zhang" unless we start seeing other Wiki articles on Chinese artists go over to names like "Jay Zhou," "Karen Mo," "Jacky Zhang," "Andy Liu," etc...something which is pretty clearly not going to happen.

For a similar discussion that happened on another article last year, see Talk:Jay Chou#Zhou Jielun. Politizer ^talk/_contribs 17:07, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Which spelling did she use when she was living in Canada? If she used the name "Chang" during those years, then presumably the better way to render her last name in English would be "Chang." Also, which spelling turns up in English-language Chinese publications? Timothy Horrigan (talk) 03:37, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here is "Chang" on English sina.com. And as I pointed out above, "Chang" is used on her album covers as far as I can remember. rʨanaɢ (talk) 05:18, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mitral prolapse

A bunch of people have been adding some information today about a medical diagnosis Zhang had back in March. Please don't add anything on that unless you can have it from a very robust source. I've removed everything that was added so far because the original source of it all was this page, a blog, and therefore not reliable. (Please note: if your source is this Asianpopcorn article or this Asianfanatics article, those are also useless, because they are just copies of the original blog post.) Because of Wikipedia's rules for writing about living people, we have to be very careful what we say about something as personal as one's medical condition. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 13:34, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I managed to gather some references on this subject from Sina.com. Some of the title translations may be a bit off, the stories are genuine and provide useful information (provided one can read Chinese).

(in Chinese) "张韶涵心脏病检查报告出炉医生建议动手术 Angela Chang's heart condition report, doctor recommends surgery". Sina.com. 2008-03-12. Retrieved 2008-12-05. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
Initial reports of Angela Chang's mitral valve prolapse.
(in Chinese) "张韶涵半隐退不认过气广告代言赚进两千万 Angela Chang's semi-retirement not for long, advertisements bring RMB 20 million". Sina.com. 2008-10-21. Retrieved 2008-12-05. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
Her activities since the initial diagnosis.
(in Chinese) "张韶涵心脏病发停工电影之歌演唱会抱憾缺席 Angela Chang stops work due to heart condition, regrets absence at film concert". Sina.com. 2008-10-28. Retrieved 2008-12-05. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
A relapse she experienced back in October.

I hope this will be useful for judging whether or not this information is necessary in the article. Arsonal (talk) 00:58, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I won't have a chance to look at these just yet, but if anyone else is looking before I get around to it, I just wanted to say, in addition to whether or not the sources are reliable, the other thing that needs to be evaluated is whether or not this information is really relevant to Chang's career and the article and stuff like that. As a quick example off the top of my head...Lance Armstrong's cancer is of course relevant to that article, but Chang's medical condition may not be...that will have to be decided on at some point. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 01:08, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I feel that it should not be added to this article as of now because the current article about her is very short once her article expand to a more significant length, it may be added. If it was added now, then that news or information will be taking over the article. Realdan (talk) 13:33, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ROC

Republic of China (Taiwan) are being used numerously in various articles than Taiwan(ROC) (ie Used in Jay Chou and others). Also there's a clear difference between the two, with the latter suggesting Taiwan as the official name of the country than Republic of China. A few check on various government websites uses Republic of China (Taiwan) or strictly "Republic of China" only. I don't really understand how this is POV. --LLTimes (talk) 23:41, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Both terms have political connotations, and in my experience editors switching one term to the other in articles are usually doing so for politically-loaded reasons. My point was simply that people shouldn't be making edits that are known to be controversial as if they are insignificant and don't need discussion, and they especially shouldn't claim that their point of view is "NPOV" when doing so; there have been countless edit wars elsewhere over just this sort of edit, so you should know that it's not so simple.

As for precedent, the table at WP:NC-TW makes it clear that both names have their uses in different contexts, and for specification of a person's birthplace/origin in biography articles it seems that "Taiwan" may be preferred (since origin is usually, although not always, referring more to a geographical location than a political construct; Taiwan is a geographical location, whereas the ROC is a political construct). rʨanaɢ (talk) 15:43, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation of 韶

In this article, the character 韶 in her name is marked as shào in pinyin. The character 韶 is actually pronounced as sháo.

See http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E9%9F%B6 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ziguang (talk • contribs) 00:02, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

While that is the official pronunciation of that character, I have often heard it pronounced as shào by her and others when saying her name; see, for example, [1],[2],[3]). (On the other hand, I have also heard reporters pronounce it the official way, see e.g. [4].) Might be a Taiwanese thing, I don't know. rʨanaɢ (talk) 01:02, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just found several discussions of this on Baidu Zhidao. See, e.g., http://zhidao.baidu.com/question/75386649.html， http://zhidao.baidu.com/question/223367731.html?an=0&si=1. rʨanaɢ (talk) 01:42, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Angela Zhang disambiguation

Angela Zhang, 17, designed a cancer-fighting technique that targets tumors and leaves healthy tissue intact:
Awarded the $100,000 Grand Prize in the Individual category of the Siemens Competition in Math, Science & Technology. Her project was entitled “Design of Image-guided, Photo-thermal Controlled Drug Releasing Multifunctional Nanosystem for the Treatment of Cancer Stem Cells.
See Siemens Foundation - The George Washington University — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.76.7.168 (talk) 18:53, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If this person meets Wikipedia's guidelines for notability, then someone can create an article Angela Zhang (scientist) or something like that, and add a link at the top of this article. rʨanaɢ (talk) 21:52, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 12 July 2020

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It was proposed in this section that Angela Chang be renamed and moved to Angela Zhang.

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Moved. We see no opposition below, so these arguments stand on their merit. Kudos to the nom for your input, and Happy Publishing! (nac by page mover) P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 19:59, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Angela Chang → Angela Zhang – There was a discussion on this page several years back (Talk:Angela Chang#Zhang_Vs._Chang) where an argument for "Chang" was Since 'Angela Chang' is the nickname she uses on album covers, etc., that's the one we should use here. If her next album, or some other official publications, say 'Angela Zhang,' then maybe we could consider switching...but don't hold your breath for that to happen. - Well, guess what? Her 2014 album was precisely titled Angela Zhang and her 2019 album ? also says "Angela Zhang". Since 2017, "Zhang" has also been used for her concerts worldwide (e.g. Canada, Malaysia, etc..) "Chang" most likely appears on her official IDs in Taiwan and Canada but we should use the name she prefers professionally, especially if this person is fluent in English like she is. As a parallel example, we use Stefanie Sun, not Stefanie Sng.

Other considerations:

That Angela Zhang is currently a disambiguation page should not matter; Angela Zhang (scientist) is nominated for deletion and the singer is the primary usage regardless of the outcome.
The argument that Taiwan doesn't use Hanyu Pinyin is no longer accurate; Pinyin is increasingly being used in Taiwan for personal names, especially in the showbiz, e.g. Wu Ke-xi, Jian Man-shu, Huang Pei-jia, to list a few entertainers also in the 30s — all based in Taiwan. Angela's career is largely based in China so she has more reasons to use Pinyin.
I can find no evidence that she ever used "Chang" on any of her previous albums covers.
Her official YouTube page has the handle "AngelaChang0119" but everything else currently shows "Zhang": [5].
French Wikipedia and Italian Wikipedia also use "Zhang". MVP-nostalgia (talk) 19:13, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.