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This page originally read like a self-publicity page from a campaign website.

why have comments not complementary to he subject been removed? is the reverter the subject himself or a supporter?

facts are facts. Its a fact that the subject has consistently voted in Parliament against gay rights. The source is quoted. Its a fact that he proposed doubling of MP's salaries. The source is quoted. Its a fact that he claimed expenses for journals and magazines. the source is quoted. Its a fact that George Galloway made fun of his poor English grammar in his Commons suspension debate. The source from hansard is quoted and the video is on youtube.

if someone doesnt give a reasonable answer to the above, i will re-instate the edits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.40.112.202 (talk) 08:25, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I reverted your change (someone else did so later too). My concern was the tone and that you went further than the references did in most cases. The tone was tabloid, not impartially presenting facts like encyclopedia would. And all the text added was negative - there was no attempt at a neutral point of view. Phrases like "Robathan was famously ridiculed in Parliament" jumped out (emphasis mine). The source was TheyWorkForYou (which means Hansard) - it can't show the "famously" part, it can only confirm what was said. I'd be worried about giving undue weight on the gay rights voting record based only on The Public Whip - TPW is auto-generated without much human sanity-checking - basically it's ok as a guide but not for shoving something in the lead.

That said, if you want to add some stuff with a more even-handed tone (even off some of the same references - the expenses stuff looks better, for example) then I'd encourage that. Otherwise I'll try and take a look at this at some point in the not-too-far-distant future. --h2g2bob (talk) 21:26, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Expenses

I've looked at expenses allegations relating to a number of MP's on both sides. The first reference doesn't say very much at all and should be removed. I'll try and find the Telegraph article BUT in any case I believe employment of one relative was and still is permitted. I'll update article shortly hopefully applying WP:NPOV but feel free to comment.
JRPG (talk) 12:47, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Re Forces minister 'requested noisy fusiliers be ejected from Commons gallery'

I note that this properly cited item has been removed. Of course, if it is wrong then it should be removed or shown as incorrect but its reasonable to want better proof than this, usually in the form of an apology. The Telegraph is regarded as a more reliable newspaper than the Mail and is reputed to check its facts. If Andrew Robathan has concerns, he should follow instructions on the Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard. JRPG (talk) 14:08, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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