Talk:Andrena astragali

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A fact from Andrena astragali appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 18 May 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the nectar and pollen of the meadow death camas (pictured) and its relatives are so toxic that no bee except the death camas miner bee (pictured) can eat them?

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 23:28, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Death camas miner bee on a death camas flower

... that the nectar and pollen of meadow death camas (pictured) and its relatives are so toxic that no bee except the death camas miner bee (pictured) can eat them? Source: Cane, James H. (October 2018). "Co-dependency between a specialist Andrena bee and its death camas host, Toxicoscordion paniculatum". Arthropod-Plant Interactions. 12 (5): 657–662. doi:10.1007/s11829-018-9626-9 Quote: "In this study, T. paniculatum, T. venenosum and co-flowering forbs were sampled for bees at 15 sites along a 900-km-long east–west transect across the northern Great Basin plus an altitudinal gradient in northern Utah’s Bear River Range. Only A. astragali bees were regularly seen visiting flowering panicles of these Toxicoscordion."
Cane, James H; Gardner, Dale R; Weber, Melissa (2 December 2020). "Neurotoxic alkaloid in pollen and nectar excludes generalist bees from foraging at death-camas, Toxicoscordion paniculatum (Melanthiaceae)". Biological Journal of the Linnean Society. 131 (4): 927–935. doi:10.1093/biolinnean/blaa159. Quote: "These two death-camas species are the sole floral hosts of the solitary andrenid bee Andrena astragali Ckll., which in turn was the only bee species (or any other insect) found regularly visiting these flowers across much of the plant’s geographic ranges (Cane, 2018)."
- ALT1: ... that death camas miner bees (pictured) mainly consume toxic nectar and pollen from meadow death camas (pictured) and its close relatives? Source: Same as above.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Vanna Venturi House
- Comment: Open to wording changes. My first nomination of two articles at the same time.

5x expanded by MtBotany (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

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🌿MtBotany (talk) 19:36, 21 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Since this is a two-article nomination, you need a second QPQ. The hook, article conditions, and eligibility check out, and I don't see any evidence of copyvio. You do need to bold the linked terms, however. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 21:19, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the information @Generalissima:. Sorry I missed that if two articles are nominated at once it needs two QPQ. Thanks for fixing my formatting errors. I have another review in progress for Cora Babbitt Johnson. I'll try to review another nomination in case it takes longer than I anticipate. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 03:09, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - @MtBotany: You don't need to wait for the previous review to completely finish before using it as a QPQ, as long as you have done your due diligence in the initial check for the article. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    - Another thing for me to learn! Educational evening. Thanks for your attention. I should still do one so I have an extra in my back pocket for next time. I'm looking at improving other plant articles for DYK in time for their blooming seasons. The meadow death camas in my garden are up and getting energy, they will be blooming in Colorado in about a week and I'm seeing current year observations on iNaturalist 🌿MtBotany (talk) 03:21, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Generalissima: Can this be approved? If not, what needs to happen to get it approved? Z1720 (talk) 14:07, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- Oh, yes. This can be approved now. My bad for not stating so. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 14:13, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Generalissima: If this is approved, can you add the green tick under this comment, so the DYK bot can moved this to the approved list? Z1720 (talk) 15:43, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oops. Added. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 15:44, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MtBotany, Generalissima, and Z1720: There are too many images on both pages and these are interfering with the table of contents. Can something be done about this?--Laun chba ller 12:09, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Launchballer, you're going to have to be more specific. Breaks how? I've looked at the pages on both windows and mac machines and I cannot see anything wrong. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 16:21, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I use a standard widescreen monitor and some of the images are to the right of the references, which means there's an unslightly block of whitespace - granted "presentable" is far too nebulous a DYK criterion to be useful but I would suggest some of these should be moved to a WP:GALLERY or moved to the Commons (i.e. removed from the article).--Laun chba ller 16:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am unable to replicate what you are seeing even on an extremely large monitor of 89x48cm with the browser window filling the whole monitor. Does anyone else see this problem? I suspect this is something in your settings or preferences rather than something that a problem that needs to be fixed. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 16:34, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think this is a me problem because my settings are all standard, and even testing changing the Thumbnail size in preferences to the highest and lowest settings still generates the same problem on Andrena. Other editors are free to opine.--Laun chba ller 17:08, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This DYK shouldn't be held up. MtBotany added material that extended the text enough to eliminate the visual concern Launchballer mentioned. However, that kind of thing should never hold up a DYK. That kind of thing wouldn't even result in a failed GAN. ~ Pbritti (talk) 19:19, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]