Talk:Andreas Waldetoft

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This page was proposed for deletion by an editor on 1 February 2016 with the comment:
No sign that this person meets WP:GNG or WP:NBIO: all references are to forum posts, his personal website and his employer's website.

Notability

As well as the PROD deletion in February 2016, subsequent draft article versions on this subject were rejected multiple times at AfC, before the creation of this new instance. Reliable 3rd party evidence is needed to demonstrate notability. AllyD (talk) 20:49, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All the linked Wikipedia articles in this article list Andreas Waldetoft as the composer or one of the composers. There are third parties citing him as well, such as

IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm8153119/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/7eyudpSl4KF7iXun4H2PSh
Deezer: https://www.deezer.com/en/album/96719262

SharkMa-san (talk) 23:18, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SharkMa-san Please stop restoring the previous version, an Afd has occurred regarding this version and has been closed for a redirection, if you have nothing new there is no point in restoring this version, if you find reliable references do not hesitate to add them and for information, databases like IMDb or music sites like Spotify or Deezer are not reliable references. SparklingBlueMoon (talk) 23:25, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the reply. Please tell me what are reliable references. Artist's own website isn't good enough, YouTube isn't good enough and music streaming services are not good enough. What is considered a reliable reference? SharkMa-san (talk) 23:38, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SharkMa-san The person's website cannot be acceptable because it is not neutral and YouTube and music sites are only hosts, an example of reliable references are press articles.SparklingBlueMoon (talk) 23:41, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All the games listed on the article that we've been undoing back and forth, the Wikipedia pages credit him as the composer. You can credit someone on an article easily but having an article about them is extremely hard. SharkMa-san (talk) 00:20, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is a bit silly. You can credit someone on several pages but to create a page about them you need definite proof about them with some requirements. SharkMa-san (talk) 00:37, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A person must be notable enough to have their own article on Wikipedia, being credited is not enough, the person concerned must attract attention and be found in reliable sources, there is a big difference between citing the name of a person in an article and creating your own article for them. SparklingBlueMoon (talk) 00:52, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think a composer that has done music for the listed games on the article I tried to get published is enough for notability. Finding sources about it that excludes commercial avenues (which would definitely prove it) is not going to be easy. SharkMa-san (talk) 01:23, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SparklingBlueMoon Is IMDb also considered an unreliable source? SharkMa-san (talk) 01:25, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:USERG where IMDb is one of those specifically mentioned. AllyD (talk) 06:14, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please also answer the question below. SparklingBlueMoon (talk) 23:42, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SharkMa-san I also saw that you persist in creating this article, maybe you could start by telling us what is your relationship to this person? Is it yourself? Are you a relative or a colleague? SparklingBlueMoon (talk) 23:28, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is not me and I'm not related. I just think he deserves the same as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Baranowsky SharkMa-san (talk) 23:45, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, in this case just avoid persisting in creating an article without additional relevant elements because it could be like spam and promotion. For this article either you find reliable sources or you give up / wait for reliable sources to appear. SparklingBlueMoon (talk) 23:51, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It just got rejected with no explanation. I tried to amend the page in multiple ways, but it was just rejected and I didn't know why. You're the first to tell me why. SharkMa-san (talk) 00:24, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]