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Affair

I have reverted the removal of Jenkyns' affair - the source specifically states she had an affair and we should not censor this. Absolutelypuremilk (talk) 08:56, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@CJS1996:, you have broken WP:3RR, I suggest you discuss here rather than edit warring. Absolutelypuremilk (talk) 13:01, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like @CJS1996: is a staffer from Jenkyns office and as such should be considered a biased and not an objective source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.18.103.62 (talk • contribs) 15:14, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User CJS1996

User @CJS1996: deleted this page on November 2nd, 2018. This page records discussion relevant to the main article and as such should be preserved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.18.94.65 (talk • contribs) 18:47, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Raised finger gesture at Downing Street

The biography page for Andrea Jenkyns will need to adequately summarise this MP's career at some point, without suppressing or diminishing relevant and significant events. Consider: (1) The UK hasn't previously experienced an elected representative showing open disrespect for the public / protestors, and in such a prominent and symbolic location (the entrance to Downing Street); (2) Andrea Jenkyns is significant for _this_ event; (3) While there are tendentious ways to describe what's significant about an MP, there are also neutral ways to describe such; (4) Wikipedia aims for neutrality, but this isn't a matter of leaving key facts out, or rendering them less visible (i.e. at the end of an entry). Factvalue (talk) 13:46, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose to give this its own section including details of Jenkyns’s statement in response, and add a brief reference to the event in the opening paragraph. Unless there are any objections? Factvalue (talk) 09:02, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Smartse's edit summary in September 2022 that it doesn't merit an individual section. I feel it is better placed in the main "Parliamentary career" section as it is relevant to Andrea Jenkyns attending, as a parliamentarian, the resignation speech of Boris Johnson in Downing Street. Jenkyns said she should have shown more composure, but made the gesture as a response to what she said was a "baying mob". I think her "middle finger" gesture merits inclusion in the article, but it's not so highly important in my view that it requires an individual section devoted to it. Regards, Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 02:34, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Arron Banks campaign donation

In 2019 Jenkyns received campaigning money from the Brexit activist Arron Banks but the article omits this. Propose to add this fact to the ‘Parliamentary career’ section, again, unless there are any objections? Factvalue (talk) 09:09, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone know if she got a degree?

The text currently reads: "In her late thirties, Jenkyns studied for a degree in Economics from the Open University and for one in International Relations from the University of Lincoln.[9]". "Studied for" is usually - but by no means always - shorthand for ". . . was enrolled for but did not complete . . ." I'd like to know what the Minister's qualifications are. When I go to that reference [9] I get 'site not safe' warning from my Mac. Cross Reference (talk) 17:33, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Cross Reference: Did you look at the archived version? That opens fine for me and says Her recent studies – degrees in International Relations from Lincoln University and Economics from the Open University. Perhaps the article text should be changed to make it clear that she graduated. SmartSE (talk) 17:56, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I went to her own website and found this sentence: "In her late-thirties Andrea decided to study Economics through the Open University and embarked upon a Degree in International Relations and Politics, graduating at the age of 40. Andrea balanced her studies alongside a busy working life." ^[1]I assume that an MP's own website is accurate - they really cannot afford to prevaricate there as it would quickly be used by their political foes if they did. No mention of Lincoln University, and I am kind of puzzled by the statement about the OU. Anyway I think we can clarify the article text accordingly. I don't have time to do it now but I will try to get to it in the next few days unless someone else wants to do it. Cross Reference (talk) 07:30, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://www.andreajenkyns.co.uk/about-andrea

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Can we please request that it is stated that Dame Andrea Jenkyns MP and Jack Lopresti MP have divorced in 2023. Can we also request this is removed from the wikipedia page - two years after it had been reported that she was in a relationship with him while he was still married to his first wife.[38][39]

Furthermore can the first paragraph in the Personal Life section go as follows: Jenkyns lives in Gildersome, West Yorkshire. Her son, Clifford, who was born in 2017 and named after her late father. She married Lopresti (the MP for Filton and Bradley Stoke in Bristol) in St Mary Undercroft in the Palace of Westminster on 22 December 2017, the pair divorced in 2023. Arg1004 (talk) 08:58, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: no reason given for the proposed deletion and change. M.Bitton (talk) 15:07, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: The first part of the request (stating that Jenkyns and Lopresit got divorced) would be possible if a reliable source were presented. -- D'n'B-t -- 16:41, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done: The subject has now tweeted, stating that she is in fact divorced,^[1] so that does change matters. -- D'n'B-t -- 17:31, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ @AndreaJenkins (April 16, 2024). "This is complete rubbish, and there is nothing to see here, I am divorced!" (Tweet) – via Twitter.

[1] ttps://www.andreajenkyns.co.uk/about-andrea

[2] @AndreaJenkins (April 16, 2024). "This is complete rubbish, and there is nothing to see here, I am divorced!" (Tweet) – via Twitter.

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