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Needs analysis

i think there should be an analysis of the poem here

Copyright

It's a little odd that the whole poem is here. Isn't it still under copyright? 66.31.76.221 (talk) 15:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, copyrighted at least until 2024, and possibly for longer in the U.S. where the Wikimedia servers are. —LarryGilbert (talk) 00:50, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

From WP:COPYVIO: "If some, but not all, of the content of a page appears to be a copyright infringement, then the infringing content should be removed, and a note to that effect should be made on the discussion page, …." I have done this. —LarryGilbert (talk) 00:56, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use

Couldn't quotes from the poem be incorporated, or a better explanation - now it seems as though it is mostly notable for being in films etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.96.148.42 (talk) 06:47, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Literary legacy

The poem inspired a significant literary echo during WW2, when its prophetic tone must have felt very resonant to those who knew Thomas' poetry. In Sweden, Erik Lindegren, at the time almost unknown but soon to grow into a leading poet and critic, composed De döda ("The Dead", written around 1942-43, in book form in 1947), an ode to resistance and coming redemption of the struggle against tyranny and violence: the poem was most likely inspired by the Norwegian and French resitance movements.

The general shape closely matches Dylan Thomas' poem: three strophes of roughly equal length, each beginning and ending in a solemn line (varied three times) about how memory and final victory will overcome death, silence and slaughter, the last time: "The dead shall no longer be silent but will speak". Lindegren's poem is much more directly topical about war, oppression and resistance against tyranny than Thomas', but the prophetic sweep, the rhythm and the nature of the free-flowing imagery are similar. 83.254.136.234 (talk) 19:49, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]