Talk:Ancestry of Prince Wolfgang of Hesse

This article was nominated for deletion on 2006 June 16. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Father's ancestry

loaned from, the father's ancestry:

32 Sophie Dorothea of Brandenburg-Schwedt
33 Frederick II Eugen of Wurttemberg
34 Catherine II of Russia, of Anhalt, descendant of Charles IX of Sweden, and also descendant of Dukes of Gottorp
35 Peter III Fedorovich of Russia, Duke of Gottorp, descendant of Charles XI of Sweden
36 Caroline of Palatinate-Birkenfeld
37 Louis IX of Hesse-Darmstadt, descendant of Charles IX of Sweden
38 Anna Amalia of Brunswick, descendant of Charles IX of Sweden
39 Ernest August II of Saxe-Weimar, descendant of Dukes of Sonderburg-Beck
40 Marie Louise of Leiningen, descendant of Counts of Ahlefeld
41 Georg Wilhelm of Hesse-Darmstadt, descendant of Charles IX of Sweden
42 Elisabeth of Saxe-Hildburghausen
43 Carl of Mecklenburg, descendant of Countess of Ostfriesland, the eldest daughter of Gustav I of Sweden
44 Caroline of Palatinate-Birkenfeld (=36)
45 Louis IX of Hesse-Darmstadt (=37), descendant of Charles IX of Sweden
46 Louise of Brunswick, descendant of Charles IX of Sweden
47 August Wilhelm of Prussia
48 Anne Sophie of Schwarzburg, descendant of Countess of Ostfriesland, the eldest daughter of Gustav I of Sweden
49 Francis of Saxony Coburg
50 Gustave Caroline of Mecklenburg, descendant of Countess of Ostfriesland, the eldest daughter of Gustav I of Sweden, and also descendant of Dukes of Gottorp
51 Christian Ludwig II of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, descendant of Countess of Ostfriesland, the eldest daughter of Gustav I of Sweden
52 Antoinette Amalie of Brunswick, descendant of Dukes of Schleswig-Norburg
53 Ferdinand Albrecht II of Wolfenbuttel, descendant of Charles IX of Sweden
54 Sophia Magdalena of Brandenburg-Kulmbach, descendant of Dukes of Sonderburg-Glucksburg
55 Christian VI of Denmark
56 Catherine of Solms, descendant of Counts of Ahlefeld
57 Christian of Leiningen
58 Christina Wilhelmina of Saxe-Eisenach, descendant of Countess of Ostfriesland, the eldest daughter of Gustav I of Sweden
59 Carl of Nassau-Usingen
60 Caroline of Brandenburg-Ansbach
61 George II of Great Britain
62 Dorothea Wilhelmine of Saxe-Zeitz, descendant of Dukes of Sonderburg-Glucksburg
63 William VIII of Hesse, nephew of Frederick I of Sweden
ObRoy (talk · contribs)

I would like to want to be left out of Cfvh's misrepresentations

Regarding an edit by User:Cfvh "02:28, 13 June 2006 Cfvh m (Added "inuse" by myself on behalf of ObRoy)", I hereby clarify that I have never wanted Cfvh to do anything "on my behalf" nor asked him, contrary to what he claims in that. In fact, I do not trust Cfvh at all, not a good basis for him to claim to act in my name. This certainly means that I will never allow him to do anything on my behalf. ObRoy 10:03, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The inuse template was added because you had stepped totally in the wrong direction and this article needed an overall. Before you talk about trust, realise the help you are throwing away. Charles 17:00, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Germanization

After recent massive edits by someone called Charles, the page seems to have changed to much more "German". Names seem to include yet more German placenames and firstname variants. I am not convinced that the said Charles knows to use English. Would it be possible to name this page to reflect its relation primarily to Finland? And the interesting portion of how they are related to Finland, has totally vanished. I am not happy with changes to those directions. Finlandais 08:07, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OF COURSE it's going to seem German. Hesse-Kassel, Prussia, the German Empire, Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach, Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, Nassau-Usingen, Mecklenburg-Strelitz, Saxe-Gotha-Altenburg, Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld, Hesse-Darmstadt, Wūrttemberg and Reuss were all German places and the royals were German royals! The article is entirely accurate with regards to each royal mentioned: They were not Finnish! They are German ancestors to a German prince who was briefly heir to a briefly existing Finnish throne, who styled himself for the rest of his life was Prince Wolfgang of Hesse. Of course, when one has his own agenda and an article goes against that grain, one will not be happy. Thankfully you are not a majority policy-maker here at Wikipedia. The rest of the descent is in the article, hidden using tags so that it can be re-ordered in a presentable manner. The page should not be named to apply an obscure title to an already obscure royal. I need not convince you of my knowledge of English. I do not bend down to petty insults to "prove a point". Charles 04:02, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Info from pre-merge article is split among parents, do not delete without doing further work

All information in the main article as of earlier today, [1], is now split among his parents, Prince Frederick Charles of Hesse-Kassel and Princess Margaret of Prussia. There is no {{prod}} or {{AfD}} yet but the article has been redirected to Prince Wolfgang of Hesse. Before this article is deleted the ancestral information in the Talk: page needs to be preserved somewhere. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 03:20, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-prod/anti-speedy notice

Consider this notice not to propose-delete or speedy-delete this article until after all ancestral information from the talk page has been moved to someplace useful. Please notify me of any AfD action if these issues remain before the AfD is called. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 03:23, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article isn't deleted... The redirect contains all of the history. All of the ancestry does not need to be maintained, each linked ancestor has their parents in their articles plus the information exists on numerously repositories such as Roglo, which I used to build many of the ancestries on Wikipedia. Charles 03:34, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The notice was to alert any well-intentioned editor not to prod this a year from now without thinking about it. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 03:45, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects like this are rarely ever prod'd. Charles 04:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]