Talk:Amor Prohibido (song)/GA1

Reviewers Note: All issues were discussed on the article's talk page. Magiciandude (talk) 16:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Hello! I am the reviewer, magiciandude. As this is my first time reviewing an article, I will carefully reexamine the article piece by piece. For right now, I will attempt a quick copy editing and help out with minor issues. Magiciandude (talk) 15:33, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
	1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	I am confused about this statement: "Selena's brother, A.B. Quintanilla III, had written the song with some help from Selena during the Selena Live! Tour in 1993. A.B Quintanilla officially wrote the song after Selena had won her first Grammy Award for Best Mexican American Album for her fourth studio/first live album, simply called "Selena Live!." Did A.B. Quintanilla write the basis for the song during the concert and then wrote the whole song after she won her Grammy Award? Or did A.B. Quintanilla wrote a draft for the song during the concert and then wrote the full song? The music video section needs some work on the grammar. Here's an example of a music video section from a GA song article. Contractions such as "didn't" and "wasn't" should be avoided in the article unless it is a quote. See WP:Contraction. Fixed
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	The lead section is too long for this article. The total length of this article is approximately 11,172 characters long. The ideal length of the lead for this should be one or two paragraphs. See lead length. A suggestion would be trim down unnecessary information on the lead section such as "The outfits and outlines of the music video was designed by the director of photography, Philip Holahan. Selena used some of her husband's, Chris Perez's, shirts during the shooting of the music video.". Remember, lead sections are to paraphase what the article is going to be about. In addition, the "Promotion" heading is too short to have its own section. Either expand the section or merge the info into an appropriate subheading. There several internal links that lead to disambiguation articles. The disamig links can be found with an automated tool. Fixed
	2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	The cover songs for Shakira and Meiju Suvas need sources. This statement also nees a source: "Even though considered a Tejano song, "Amor Prohibido" has helped Selena cross over into Puerto Rico, South America, and other Spanish-speaking countries that didn't accept Mexican genres as a favorite tune" Otherwise, everything else looks. Though I would ask to remove red internal links from the references. Fixed
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	The inline citations in the award sections is inconsistent. It should be either one side or the other, not both. Also the reception table should be deprecated for two reasons: 1) The TopTen Reviews has only one review which Allmusic and that is already mentioned in the article. 2)The Allmusic review is for the album not the song. If you can't find information about the song in the album review, trying looking for reviews in compilation albums that have the song. Fixed
	2c. it contains no original research.	Everything else seems verified by references.
	3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	Looks fine to me.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	As I've mentioned, the lead section needs to be fixed. Fixed
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	Facts, awards, and opinions by music critics are well referenced
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	I have not deteced any edit wars on the history page.
	6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	Non-free images in the article comply with fair use.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	Image of cover art and music video are relevant to the topic and have appropriate captions.
	7. Overall assessment.	Overall, the article is very close to getting a GA status. Just focus on the issues that I have posted above and there shouldn't be any other problems. The article has been listed under GA

Magiciandude (talk) 16:17, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The non-free image of the video fails WP:NFCC#1 (replaceability) and WP:NFCC#8 (significance). The fact that she is wearing one of her husband's shirts is already mentioned in the prose (WP:NFCC#1) and the video is not of a style or notability such that it requires an additional non-free image (WP:NFCC#3a, WP:NFCC#8). The Mexico-only album cover is also a borderline usage; it may be worthwhile enquiring as to whether this is a valid usage at WT:NFC. I have removed the video shot but left the additional album cover for the time being. Black Kite (t) (c) 21:42, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How could I forget about the video shot....I am ashamed of myself. Magiciandude (talk) 21:46, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don't be - and I think the issue has been resolved now. Black Kite (t) (c) 22:10, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, all's well good then. :) Is everything else on the review okay? Magiciandude (talk) 22:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks ok to me, though I'm definitely no expert on the subject herself! Black Kite (t) (c) 10:38, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]