Talk:American University of London

Confusion with American University in London

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The AUOL (American University Of London) was established in 1984 and this year 2009 it is celebrating its 25th anniversary. The confusion arose when in 1999 a gentleman by the name of Hussein Al-Zubaidi set up a company called the Advanced School Of Graduate Studies Ltd T-A (Trading As) The American University IN London.

It is this company "university" that was fined on the 13th January 2006 at the Highbury Corner Magistrates Court - London, under the Business Names Act and the Trade Descriptions Act.

Students Must be aware of the above information so as not to confuse the AUOL established in 1984 with this discredited company.

As far as we are aware at AUOL, this university has never dealth with, either directly or via affiliates with the state of Pakistan.

Whilst this university may not be offically accredited (neither are Harvard or Yale!) we are not a degree mill and our students must work hard in order to obtain their degrees. We our proud of the high standard of our academic content- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzhVJa5tnjg

Professor M. Nimier <e-mail redacted> Andrenimri (talk) 11:54, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

After looking at the source stated on this page, it is clear they are different companies and have removed the paragraph about the legal action. Regards, Woody (talk) 12:27, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

'Professor M. Nimier' is not necessarily correct about any of the above. The claim that Harvard and Yale are not accredited is simply ludicrous and seems to be made to justify non-accredidation. Eg, from Yale's own site:

University Accreditation

Yale University: New England Association of Schools and Colleges

Arts & Sciences:

Engineering--Accrediting Board for Engineering and Technology Psychology--Committee on Accreditation of the American Psychological Association Teacher Preparation--Connecticut State Department of Education Architecture: National Architectural Accrediting Board Divinity: Association of Theological Schools

Epidemiology & Public Health: Council on Education for Public Health The Commission on Accreditation of Healthcare Management Education

Forestry & Environmental Studies: Society of American Foresters

Law: American Bar Association

Management: Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business

Medicine: Accrediting Commission on Education for Health Services Administration American Medical Association and Association of American Medical Colleges, Liaison Committee on Medical Education Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education American Psychological Association

Music: National Association of Schools of Music

Nursing: Commission on Collegiate Nursing Education National League for Nursing Accreditation Commission American College of Nurse Midwives Pediatric Nursing Certification Board Connecticut State Board of Nurse Examiners

Physician Associate: Accreditation Review Commission of Education for the Physician Assistant —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dougweller (talk • contribs) 19:28, 2 February 2009

I believe that what Dougweller is referring to is an edit that I recently reverted. [1] I would assume that the edit had intended to say that Oxford was not accredited. Although that statement would still be ridiculous but less so since in the UK, accreditation means a law from parliament or royal decree and Oxford was started before the current UK process was set. It would still be ridiculous though because Oxford is on the list of UK officially sanctioned schools. American University of London is not officially sanctioned from any recognized accreditor. I did find it amusing though that the person apparently got their story so mixed up though. :-) Regards, TallMagic (talk) 20:51, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but it was the comment by an editor above saying "Whilst this university may not be offically accredited (neither are Harvard or Yale!) " that I was referring to. I don't know 'Professor' Nimier's research is just poor or if he/she is having us on, but the claim is woefully wrong. dougweller (talk) 21:59, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see. Thanks for the correction. Degree mill apologists frequently make reference to Oxford and Cambridge not having official accreditation. I just find it amusing that multiple accounts seem to all coincidentally mix Oxford and Cambridge up with Harvard and Yale. Perhaps I'm just too easily amused though. Take care, TallMagic (talk) 00:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

American Association for Higher Education and Accreditation

We can't claim this is 140 years old. See [2], [3], and our discussion here[4]. It claims to be the same organisation[5]. Dougweller (talk) 12:39, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Like a chameleon, AUOL changes color rapidly

The history of this article shows many large changes in the information sourced to the university website. A bit of historical investigation leads me to conclude that this reflects large changes in the website. In April 2012, page 14 of the prospectus listed accreditation by World Association of Universities and Colleges (WAUC) and UK Commission for Consistent Learning UK-CCL. Page 14 of the prospectus I downloaded today does not list either of those entities. It states that the school has "not applied for accreditation with any American nor British official accreditor", has an "agreement with a renowned USA agency" for the issuance of Equivalency Certificates to AUOL graduates (that statement was also in the April 2012 version), and it lists membership in the American Association for Higher Education and Accreditation.

Like a chameleon, AUOL changes color rapidly.

Accordingly, I think it's very important that our article content describe the representations made in the past (this is history) as well as the ones being made currently, and that accessdates for the AUOL website be documented in every reference citation to the website. --Orlady (talk) 21:40, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 22 October 2013

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In October 2013, BBC Newsnight submitted an application for a Masters of Business Administration degree on behalf of "Pete", a dog at the Battersea Dogs' Home. The application was approved.^[1]

2001:5C0:1400:A:0:0:0:24F (talk) 23:10, 22 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:29, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone who knows how to insert web-links into formatted references please restore the BBC web-link [6] given above? It was in the article but seems to have gone missing. Maybe Pete Smith ate it. Dunno. Cheers anyway. Done, thanks. Haploidavey (talk) 11:47, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ American University of London sells study-free MBA, Jim Reed and Mike Deri Smith, BBC Newsnight, October 22 2013.

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[1] American University of London sells study-free MBA, Jim Reed and Mike Deri Smith, BBC Newsnight, October 22 2013.

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