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Fronting or stopping?

From the article: "Th-fronting is common in Cheyenne and Tsimshian English, and certainly many other Native American Englishes: replacing initial /θ/ and /ð/ with /t/ and /d/, respectively." No, replacing /θ/ with /t/ is not called th-fronting, but th-stopping. Th-fronting means that you pronounce /θ/ as /f/, as in Cockney (among other accents). So what exactly do you mean? Steinbach (talk) 11:30, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WHAT does it MEAN?

"kit–dress, kit–fleece, or face–dress mergers"

Can anyone really believe any "normal" (lay, non-expert) person knows (without an explanation) what this is supposed to mean?? I am not stupid and am interested in everything, but this stark. This article needs many clarifications.

Also in the same ('Vowels') section: "the "hoi toide" vowel" – "THE" hoi toide vowel???, writing THE as if EVERYBODY in the whole world knew what that is?! Yes, I can make a GUESS, might have s.th. to do with "high tide"?, but Wikipedia is not a quizz game, is it? :-D

So, please dear fellow wikipedians, including the writer, if possible: please do not be angry about me but if you have knowledge about those topics, it would be great if you would give 'us', the know-" nothing" ;-) -readers more & understandable information (non- comprehendable = *no* information). It is a very interesting topic. Should anyone ever read this and improve the text: Thank you :-) :-) :-) :-) 2A02:3032:D:970:1:1:2FB1:4A35 (talk) 08:47, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your point is well taken. I've done my best to at least lead a confused reader down the right rabbit-hole now. Thanks. Wolfdog (talk) 11:57, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]