Talk:American Expeditionary Force, Siberia

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Outcome of the campaign

There is no reference to the outcome of the campaign. Obviously the Red Army won, but how and when should be specified. I have no knowledge of this matter, so I put up a request here for anyone who does to complete the article. --Michalis Famelis 13:44, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously they didn't win. They won the civil war (and then lost to poland). Get your facts straight, pinko!! YankeeRoman (24.75.194.50 18:30, 4 December 2006 (UTC))[reply]

I said that the Red Army "obviously won" only because Siberia eventually became part of the USSR. However your reply does not answer my initial question. What was the outcome of the campaign? How did the campaign affect the Russian civil war? What was the fate of the american soldiers? How did they manage to get out of Siberia? When did they manage to do so? The article says the campaign ended in 1920, well, when exactly, how and why? The article does not recount the actual campaign but rather the circumstances that make up its context. That's what I'm talking about. Do you have anything to add to the article to inform ignorant Balkanians like myself of this interesting story about the Russian Civil War? If not please stop the name calling and let's all do something more productive... --Michalis Famelis (talk) 19:31, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can't, I'm reading the Black Book of Communism right now (which depresses me). OK, a few questions to respond to. The campaign ended cause the soldiers were not needed there anymore, especially with such few soldiers, they were there not to fight the soviets, but to aide others. Siberia became a part of the USSR, how did they win Siberia? They beat the Whites. YankeeRoman(70.187.232.85 03:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC))[reply]

While the questions are good, the scenario was complex and takes a lot of work to research. I've been at it for several years. Who lost may be the Japanese whose agenda for participating wasn't met. My father was involved in this campaign moving horses for cavalry from Hawaii to Manila, to Miki(JP) then into Vladivostok using the US Army Transport Dix. I'm not sure of DIX capacity but one citation to a Vet said he lost only 2 horses of 472 that were on trip he handled. They made this run several times right up to end. Although every historical note I see says President Wilson ordered them back and the last soldiers including Commanding General Graves left on April 1, 1920 my fathers log says the DIX left on April 2nd,1920.

The rifles listed as being used by the Polor Bears is wrong (1903 Spingfield) The were armed with Russian Mosin-Nagats, which had been produced in the US by Westinhouse and others, under a contract for the Russian Army, the contract was stopped when the revolution started. These rifles used the standard Russian cartridge, so captured ammo and Russian stocks could be used. L. Davis — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.182.24 (talk) 18:47, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So far as I know, there is no such gun as a Mosin-Nagat. (PeacePeace (talk) 18:50, 7 May 2020 (UTC))[reply]

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A date is needed

Article launches forth: "The American Expeditionary Force, Siberia (AEF in Siberia) was a formation of the United States Army involved in the Russian Civil War in Vladivostok, Russia, after the October Revolution, from 1918 to 1920. The force was part of the larger Allied North Russia Intervention. As a result of this expedition, early relations between the United States and the Soviet Union were poor." Somewhere in this paragraph the date of the invasion is needed. (PeacePeace (talk) 18:46, 7 May 2020 (UTC))[reply]