Talk:American–German Colony
Merge suggestion
[edit]I believe that information about individual buildings in the neighborhood should be (at least for now) merged into this article, since this neighborhood consists only of a handful of buildings, many of them defining. Each building, when written about in the press, is apparently generally referred to as part of an article about the colony. —Ynhockey (Talk) 14:04, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Merger proposal
[edit]I propose that Jerusalem Hotel (Tel Aviv-Yafo) be merged into American–German Colony. I think that the content in the building article can easily be explained in the context of the colony, and the colony article is of a reasonable size that the merging of the building will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. This agrees with the long-standing practice on this subject (see the "Merge suggested" talk section above).
Jerusalem Hotel (Tel Aviv-Yafo) was created directly in mainspace after an identical draft was declined at Articles for Creation. The hotel should not have a stand alone article because the only sources cited are two books by Holmes, and publications by a single author are insufficient to demonstrate notability. Because the hotel article does not satisfy notability guidelines, unless it is either merged or improved to the point where it does satisfy notability, it will be nominated for deletion. Worldbruce (talk) 18:17, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
- First of all, thanks a lot, that I have been informed at all! Wouldn't it be good to keep the individual buildings seperate from the general description of the quarter. There is still a lot info on single buildings as well as the general history of the place. I just do not manage these days to add them. Therefore I would argue not to carry out the proposed merger.-- Ulf Heinsohn (talk) 13:13, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- @Ulf Heinsohn: Thanks for your input. I'm not in any rush to carry out the proposed merger; I want to leave ample time for discussion. Whether to have separate articles for individual buildings varies from building to building. For me it depends primarily on whether there are sufficient sources to satisfy Wikipedia's notability guidelines. As explained above, Jerusalem Hotel does not satisfy that inclusion criteria.
- Consequently, the building article lives under constant threat of being nominated for deletion, and, if advocates of keeping it can't produce solid sources within 7 days of nomination, being deleted. Merging would have the advantages of preserving any unique content and leaving behind a redirect. With the redirect, if anyone searches for Jerusalem Hotel they will be taken to information about it in the surviving article. If at some later date additional info and sources are added, the topic can easily be split off into its own article again. Worldbruce (talk) 07:26, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- This proposal is stale (no support despite more than 2 years), and the hotel article has significantly expanded since then, further reducing the case for a merge. Therefore, in the absence of support, and the decreasing strength of case, closing. Klbrain (talk) 22:15, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
- Consequently, the building article lives under constant threat of being nominated for deletion, and, if advocates of keeping it can't produce solid sources within 7 days of nomination, being deleted. Merging would have the advantages of preserving any unique content and leaving behind a redirect. With the redirect, if anyone searches for Jerusalem Hotel they will be taken to information about it in the surviving article. If at some later date additional info and sources are added, the topic can easily be split off into its own article again. Worldbruce (talk) 07:26, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose. Both articles are justified. 01:54, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose – I think there's enough "meat" in the Jerusalem Hotel article to warrant its own article. Moving its entire content to the colony article would harm its flow and possibly create undue weight; but I just don't see a reason to merge. —Ynhockey (Talk) 14:25, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
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