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Millenium
[edit]Does anybody have a 'plot summary' for the Millenium episode? I think it is needed. Arctic Night 09:03, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Imprecision
[edit]The first chapter (Rebels) implies quite clearly that the British leader in Saratoga battle(s) of 1777, John Burgoyne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Burgoyne , has been killed in the campaign, since he is shown fatally shot by snipers of the insurgents, with the rationale that "all officers of the Britons were slain or wounded to create a power vacuum in the enemy ranks". The Wikipedia page states that the alleged dead lived until 1792.
Black soldiers and militiamen?
[edit]I was just watching the first episode, and one thing that struck me was that both the British redcoats and American militiamen had black members. Is this historically accurate? Or is this just a side-effect of the series being filmed in South Africa (i.e. they needed actors/extras and hired whoever they could get)? -- Jake Fuersturm (talk) 01:01, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Canadian airings
[edit]Are you aware that this is the first time it's aired in Canada? It's most certainly not, as you say, a "secondary" airing as far as Canada is concerned. -- Jake Fuersturm (talk) 20:16, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- So? Are you going to start adding in every single airing in every single country? How is this even remotely notable or have any impact on the actual production itself? It's a minor inconsequential detail. MikeWazowski (talk) 20:24, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- Not the first TV article to bring up the subject of airings. It's notable to Canadians. Or are you saying that Canada is inconsequential? -- Jake Fuersturm (talk) 20:40, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- Don't try to put words into my mouth - the subject of the article is about a TV series. That's it. A rebroadcast, even in another country, is not inherently notable, unless there was something newsworthy about it, like incredible ratings or some newsworthy controversy/public interest. All you're adding is that it aired. Big whoop - it has no significant bearing on the program itself, and unless you can find some valid justification for it's notability, it doesn't belong. MikeWazowski (talk) 20:43, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- And as I said before, it's not a "rebroadcast. It would only be a rebroadcast if Canada is considered part of the U.S., which it's not. -- Jake Fuersturm (talk) 20:50, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- It's a rebroadcast, in that the original airings, around which all the press and awards are related, was a year ago. These new airings are not inherently notable - they just exist. They're essentially syndication. Unless there is some special notability granted just for some network, Canadian or otherwise, deciding to air the thing, that mention doesn't belong. MikeWazowski (talk) 20:57, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- And for the record, would you take this position for Canadian shows that subsequently aired in the U.S. a year later? -- Jake Fuersturm (talk) 20:59, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- It would depend on the circumstances. This is not a black/white, right/wrong, Jake vs. Wikipedia thing here - I treat things on a case by case basis, looking at notability, press coverage/citations. I will not give you a definite answer on this question, because it cannot be answered definitely without looking at the specifics of a given situation. MikeWazowski (talk) 21:03, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- And for the record, would you take this position for Canadian shows that subsequently aired in the U.S. a year later? -- Jake Fuersturm (talk) 20:59, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- It's a rebroadcast, in that the original airings, around which all the press and awards are related, was a year ago. These new airings are not inherently notable - they just exist. They're essentially syndication. Unless there is some special notability granted just for some network, Canadian or otherwise, deciding to air the thing, that mention doesn't belong. MikeWazowski (talk) 20:57, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- And as I said before, it's not a "rebroadcast. It would only be a rebroadcast if Canada is considered part of the U.S., which it's not. -- Jake Fuersturm (talk) 20:50, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- Don't try to put words into my mouth - the subject of the article is about a TV series. That's it. A rebroadcast, even in another country, is not inherently notable, unless there was something newsworthy about it, like incredible ratings or some newsworthy controversy/public interest. All you're adding is that it aired. Big whoop - it has no significant bearing on the program itself, and unless you can find some valid justification for it's notability, it doesn't belong. MikeWazowski (talk) 20:43, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- Not the first TV article to bring up the subject of airings. It's notable to Canadians. Or are you saying that Canada is inconsequential? -- Jake Fuersturm (talk) 20:40, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
I have to agree, the first airing in Canada (or any other country outside the original) is not particularly notable, and certainly doesn't belong in the lead section. The addition was unsourced anyway. –CWenger (^ • @) 21:33, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- I can source it, if you like. But do you agree that it's a broadcast rather than a rebroadcast? -- Jake Fuersturm (talk) 21:39, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
- Do you have any sources besides something like History Television's website? That would make me think about it a little differently. But otherwise, Mike had a good point, should we list every single time this is shown in a new country (in the lead section, no less)? It looks like there are at least 3 other international versions of the channel. –CWenger (^ • @) 21:51, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
South Africa
[edit]Why is a show about the history of America made in another country? --63.3.2.1 (talk) 01:18, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
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