Talk:Alternative fashion
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Someone deleted this page and re-directed to Fashion
[edit]Please do not delete this page without going through normal deletion process, as per standard wikipedia procedure. It contains some useful information about Alternative fashion shows that is otherwise not avaialable on Wikipedia, or generally on the web itself.Deathlibrarian 12:30, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Alternative fashion mags
[edit]I think there are other alternative fashion mags such as ID for example.
NPOV
[edit]Emo is not the only alternative fashion and the article focuses on it like it was and is. Widen the POV. 97.85.185.160 (talk) 02:09, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
NPOV issue response (if there is another way I am supposed to post this please let me know, I am new to Wikipedia and do not know the nuances of NPOV discussion).
I am unsure why this article was flagged as being entirely non-neutral when it seems one person has a problem with only a very specific section and when their issue with that section (i.e. Emo being too represented) was not backed up at all in their comment. Emo is discussed heavily in only a small section of this page as an example(which I have attempted to clarify with recent edits and will expound on further)as it is a subculture relevant to current society and thus known to the general wiki reader. Many other subcultures mentioned on this page (and there are MANY) are no longer widely seen in popular culture and are difficult to impossible to find current information about. Wiki guidlines state if there is a problem with a specific section the banner for "section neturality" should be placed in that area and a discourse should be started on the issue. This is not the case; the wrong banner was put in and a comment was left that hardly constitutes discussion. I will be happy to engage in discussion about any neutrality issues but please don't slap an incorrect label with no justification. Also, I am not a part of any specific subculture nor media/shopping outlet related to such as some items directed at me seem to be indicating. This article reflects a broad amount of subject matter, heavily based on sociological and anthropological research, while the article predating it was scant, non-researched and extremely focused on a few subcultures. The fact that very little criticism was made of it seems to indicate it's POV was more in line with those criticizing this article, which promotes no specific agenda. After putting hours of work into researching, writing and editing this I am being personally attacked in my private message box by a particular nay-sayer who thinks I am being "paid" to write this, I can only assume because it doesn't reflect their personal opinion enough. Once again, happy to engage in real discussion.Vienluna (talk) 19:34, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Suggestions
[edit]All mention of magazines, shows, etc. have been removed. They were a remnant of the original article and I left a lot of it out of respect for the previous author. However, if people feel it is intended as advertising then it hinders the article. I would appreciate more specifics on what readers feel constitutes "original research" in this article and I will attempt to source these items more accurately as I have done with most of the information in this work. Thanks. Vienluna (talk) 19:43, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Removal of Events, Magazines
[edit]I don't think it is necessary to remove events/magazines from this article. The existence, and detail about these events are part of the evolution of Alternative fashion. Other fashion shows are mentioned in general fashion shows. I would like to add these events, and any relevant magazines back in. I think the removal of them is a bit strange... you wouldn't remove all references to Metal Bands on a page about Heavy Metal because it would promote them, would you? Deathlibrarian (talk) 11:02, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
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I have a question
[edit]can I ad 2020 Alt to the page because it is this alt or is it not? Imadethissomyipadresswouldntgetstolen (talk) 16:43, 26 March 2024 (UTC)