Talk:Alpha (Selena album)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 07:52, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

I will start this review today, but might not have it wrapped up until tomorrow. --K. Peake 07:52, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• You need a source that actually calls the album tejano music in the body to verify this; being nominated for awards doesn't make it as such

• Surprisingly, I found a review on Allmusic and have cited it in the body.

• The under G.P. Productions part should be mentioned in the release sentence instead

• Alpha is the debut album with G.P., not the group's debut album.

• My point is that sentence is the one focused on release, so you should mention what label the album was issued under there. --K. Peake 08:40, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
•  Done

• "it follows two unsuccessful albums" → "it followed two unsuccessful albums"

•  Done

• Pipe indie music labels to Independent record label

•  Done

• "The group, led by" → "Selena y Los Dinos, led by"

•  Done

• Pipe cover songs to Cover version

•  Done

• The songs being by local musicians and Los Dinos is not sourced from what I can see

• Changed to just cover songs.

• "and was inspired by" → "and he was inspired by"

•  Done

• Remove pipe on Roger Garcia

•  Done

• "while Vela collaborated with" → "while he collaborated with"

•  Done

• "the group's music producer and songwriter while Abraham encouraged the group" → "Selena y Los Dinos' music producer and songwriter, while Abraham encouraged them"

•  Done

• "it became Selena's first" → "becoming Selena's first"

•  Done

• Wikilink Tejano Music Awards

•  Done

• After the first awards sentence, the lead is out of order; mention the awards the album earned her after that and then the drama documenting the group's struggles, followed by the resurgence in popularity info at the end

•  Done

• "The tracks "Dame un Beso" and "Dame tu Amor" received a" → ""Dame un Beso" and "Dame tu Amor" experienced a"

•  Done

• Use the former and the latter later on in the above sentence instead, to avoid overstating the titles

•  Done

• Pipe Latin Digital Song Sales to Latin Digital Songs

• I moved the page to its correct title

• "and won the" → "and win the"

•  Done

• "during the production of Alpha" → "during the production of the album"

•  Done

• "respectively in Netflix's two-part limited drama" → "respectively in Netflix's two-part limited drama,"

•  Done

Background and production

• Shouldn't you be using Abraham's surname each time until A.B. is mentioned too?

• I wasn't sure of that, will do

• "who bailed him out of" → "that bailed him out of" to avoid overusage of "who"

•  Done

• "Abraham, recalled "I saw" → "Abraham recalled, "I saw" per this being a full sentence quoted

•  Done

• "resulted in a recession in Texas in" → "resulted in Texas recession in"

•  Done

• Wikilink Freddie Records

•  Done

• Pipe cassette album to Cassette tape

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• Remove wikilink on Selena y Los Dinos

•  Done

• "on Selena y Los Dinos and wanted to" → "on Selena y Los Dinos, preferring to"

•  Done

• "already signed to their label. The label confronted" → "already signed by them. Freddie Records confronted"

•  Done

• "that they would be a commercial threat telling Abraham" → "they would be a commercial threat, telling him"

•  Done

• "[they would make] it."" → "[they would make] it"." per MOS:QUOTE

•  Done

• "pulled the group from" → "pulled Selena y Los Dinos from"

•  Done

• "The New Girl in Town which was" → "The New Girl in Town, which was" also, where is the lack of success for this album mentioned?

• I couldn't find it in the book that I used to cite most information for this album. I removed "unsuccessful" from the lead.

• "music producer, Manny Guerra, departed" → "music producer Manny Guerra departed"

•  Done

• "was frustrated that the group" → "was frustrated that Selena y Los Dinos"

•  Done

• Pipe cover songs to Cover version

•  Done

• "looking for material"." → "looking for material."" if this is the end of a full sentence quoted, elsewise keep as it is

• It is the end of that sentence.

• Well place the punctuation inside the quote, then. --K. Peake 08:40, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
• My mistake, it isn't.

• If Silva was approached because of him being an award-winning songwriter, then re-word accordingly; same if he was the one ignoring

•  Done

• "The group expanded to include" → "Selena y Los Dinos expanded to include"

•  Done

• Remove pipe on Roger Garcia

•  Done

• "on guitar, both were replacements" → "on guitar; both were replacements"

•  Done

• b-side → B-side, piping to A-side and B-side

•  Done

• "on the posthumously re-issue" → "on the posthumous re-issue"

•  Done

• "in a sense"." → "in a sense."" if this is a full sentence per my earlier comment

•  Done

• Was this not a full quotation since you did not move the punctuation to inside speech marks? --K. Peake 08:40, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
•  Fixed

Reception and media appearances

• "calling her the" → "which called her the" but add something from the source that shows the relation of this to the album or remove, also mention the name of the genre since this is a new section

•  Done

• "the recording a "hard-to-find album" and "Dame un Beso" as Selena's" → "the record a "hard-to-find album" and named "Dame un Beso" as one of Selena's"

•  Done

• "on YouTube writing that" → "on YouTube, writing that"

•  Done

• "not looking at her"." → "not looking at her."" per MOS:QUOTE on full sentences, also any parts of the quoted text that it is italicised in the source should be here too

•  Done

• "The group's struggles during the production of Alpha was" → "Selena y Los Dinos's struggles during the production of Alpha were"

•  Done

• "as Selena and A.B., respectively in" → "as Selena and A.B., respectively, in"

•  Done

• "A.B. looked at previous" → "A.B. looks at previous"

•  Done

• "noticing that Luis Silva is the" → "noticing that Silva is the"

•  Done

• I am unsure from the isolation sentence if A.B. himself prompts Abraham or if his behaviour is doing it; please specify?

• I didn't want to go into too much detail about that episode, so I changed the wording to summarize it better.

• "Serratos lip-synced to "Dame un Beso"." → "Serratos lip-syncs to the group's work." per the track not being specified

•  Done

Commericial performance

• Retitle to Commercial performance and awards

•  Done

• "for Most Promising Band, Selena became the" → "for Most Promising Band, making Selena the"

•  Done

• "it provided them with a" → "providing them with a" plus this should be the first sentence of the para, as the main focus is commercial

•  Done

• "The record was also" → "Alpha was also"

•  Done

• "it became Selena's first" → "becoming Selena's first"

•  Done

• "in El Paso and station XZOL reported" → "in El Paso, and XZOL reported"

•  Done

• Mention the year of the Hispanic Music Awards

• The book does not specify, upon further reading, it didn't specify the organization who issued the award. It might have been an honor given to her by a radio station. I have removed it from the article.

• ""Dame un Beso" was also nominated at the 1987 Tejano Music Awards for" → "The song was also nominated at the 1987 Tejano Music Awards for both"

•  Done

• "The tracks "Dame un Beso" and "Dame tu Amor" received a" → ""Dame un Beso" and "Dame tu Amor" received a"

•  Done

• Pipe Latin Digital Song Sales to Latin Digital Songs

• I have moved the article to its correct name.

• Again, use the former and the latter instead of the titles twice in one sentence

•  Done

Track listing

• See MOS:TABLECAPTION for the first one

•  Done

See also

• Good

References

• Copyvio score looks very good at 25.9%!!!

• Thanks =)

Works cited

• Little Brown and Company → Little, Brown and Company with the wikilink

•  Done

• Pipe Elle to Elle (magazine)

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• Pipe Houstonia to Houstonia (magazine) and fix MOS:QWQ issues

•  Done

• Wikilink Houston Chronicle on the first citation

•  Done

• Pipe The Ringer to The Ringer (website)

•  Done

• Wikilink University of North Texas Press

•  Done

• Pipe Lerner Publications Co to Lerner Publishing Group

•  Done

• Wikilink Abilene Reporter-News and Newspapers.com

•  Done

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed; that took less time that I predicted! --K. Peake 20:45, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

• Thanks for your review, greatly appreciated it. I believe I have fixed most issues you pointed out. – jona ✉ 14:59, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

• AJona1992 Nice job for a first interaction and you definitely deserved this with multiple GANs in the queue, but there are three points I went over above that still need working on. --K. Peake 08:40, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

• I have fixed all issues. Best – jona ✉ 17:55, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

• ✓ Pass now, thanks for listening to me! --K. Peake 09:38, 14 June 2022 (UTC)