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I reverted the poorly explained excision of the section based on the publication of this captive's medical records. The contributor who excised this section from this article excised similar sections from half a dozen other articles -- again without making an attempt to discuss their concern.

I responded to one of those excisions here. Geo Swan (talk) 07:35, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • The wording of my edit summary might not be the best but it was sufficient for people who are familiar with the cited policies WP:NPF, WP:GRAPEVINE. And i thought you were. I apologies when you think there were words in the edit summary that offended you. That was never my intention. Iqinn (talk) 07:54, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Medical records

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Additional explanation to my edit summary and the related policies.

"not relevant for his notability" The release of medical records of Guantanamo detainees might be interesting in the broader topic of Guantanamo, as for example some of the detainees claim they have suffered health damages. But this is the biography of Almasm Rabilavich Sharipov and there are no secondary sources in the article that discuss his personal health to a level where it could become relevant. The inclusion of this material is not relevant to Almasm Rabilavich Sharipov's notability and can not be included under WP:NPF.

"insufficient sourced" from WP:NPF

"Biographies of people who, while notable enough for an entry, are not generally well known. In such cases, exercise restraint and include only material relevant to their notability, while omitting information that is irrelevant to the subject's notability. Material from third-party primary sources should not be used unless it has first been published by a reliable secondary source."

The section is based on a primary source and therefore it can not be included.

"private information that could be possible harmful" Medical information are very personal information. All countries around the world i know have laws against the publishing of medical records. Publishing of medical information is restricted unless the individual agrees to it. Why? I can easily imagine a lot of situations where this could be harmful to an individual. An insurance company could reject to sell him a policy or potential employer could reject to give him a job...

Only one of these three reasons would justify an removal. This is not even a border-line case here. The material needs to be removed as soon as possible in accordance with our policies. Iqinn (talk) 07:54, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What should be the base name of this article?

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Khaziev, the name this individual says is his true name, has had both his name, and the alias he was known by, transliterated multiple ways.

name source
Almasm Rabilavich Sharipov "List of Individuals Detained by the Department of Defense at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba from January 2002 through May 15, 2006" (PDF). United States Department of Defense. Retrieved 2006-05-15.
Almaz Sharipov Almaz Sharipov lived in Bashkiria and was a member of radical Islamic organization. Before leaving Russia he was police senior lieutenant and investigator. In addition, he was studying at Law School of Ufa State University. He left the service in 1999, and after that his relatives did not hear from him.
Abdur Razakah

Named Abdur Razakah in Razakah v. Bush -- 05-CV-2370.

Shamil Hajiyev Almaz Sharipov (or Shamil Hajiyev) - comes from the republic of Bashkortostan. Before crossing the Russian border, he was a member of an Islamic organization, like two other captives. The investigation determined, Almaz Sharipov's real name was Shamil Hajiyev, he was born in 1971.
Shamil Khazhiev Shamil Khazhiev, once a prisoner at the American Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, has requested political asylum in The Netherlands.
Shamil Khadzhiev [tt_news=3258 The men, who have come to be known as “the Russian Taliban,” included two Balkars from Kabardino-Balkaria (Ruslan Odzhiev and Rasul Kudaev) and five Tatars from Tatarstan and Bashkortostan and the Tyumen region of Siberia (Ravil Gumarov, Airat Vakhitov, Rustam Akhmarov, Timur Ishmuradov, and Shamil Khadzhiev).]]
Shamil Khazhiyev

I recently commented to another contributor that, IMO, there is a maintenance burden involved in any renaming -- so renaming should have a good justification, shouldn't be done lightly, for frivolous reasons. In this individual's case there doesn't seem to be any real doubt that American intelligence officials identified him under an alias -- not his real name -- for the entire time he was in US custody. I welcome the input of others as to whether moving the article to some variation of his real name is worth the maintenance burden of a renaming.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 22:36, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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