Talk:Allied logistics in the Southern France campaign

Good article status

On 8 June 2021, this article attained Good Article status after nomination from Hawkeye7 and review by myself. Relevant information transcluded below. ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:28, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Allied logistics in the Southern France campaign/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Pbritti (talk · contribs) 02:08, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Intro

Hi, @Hawkeye7: I'll be taking on this Good Article review for the article "Allied logistics in the Southern France campaign"! This is my first review for the GA, though I have previously submitted articles for review. Patience will be appreciated as I work through the text to ensure that this article meets the standards to be classified as a GA. Thank you! ~ Pbritti (talk) 02:08, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

No worries. I'm not in a hurry on this one. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:08, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Preliminary comments

• The preference for the Notes/References format works excellently here, considering the proliferate number of textual sources.
• The article reads extremely cohesively, though perhaps to the article's detriment. While read in full the article functions effectively, certain things like dates could do with being repeated in additional sections to improve at-a-glance legibility. Definitely not something that would detract from this article to the degree to deny the article GA status under WP:GACR.
• Avoidance of plagiarism is evident. Very good job on that.

I will review citations in detail next. Thus far, an extremely promising start. ~ Pbritti (talk) 03:34, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Update: life has happened. Will try to perform more reviewing this weekend but we are perhaps two weeks out from completion. ~ Pbritti (talk) 21:20, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Prose

Excellent. Minor fixes not worth mentioning. Red text is accompanied by non-English Wikipedia link which is good. Y

Base 901

• But the French Army recruited in North Africa was made up of personnel from the French colonial empire, many of whom came from less industrially developed parts of the world. This made finding the requisite skilled personnel for service units challenging. I'm going to delete the "but" and restructure the succeeding sentence

 Done

Images

Very well illustrated. Y

Citations

Every fifth citation plus a couple extra as I felt like it.

• 1 : Y
• 2 : Y Phrasing perhaps too similar but publishing by U.S. government makes it acceptable from a copyright perspective.
• 4 : Y I can't make heads or tails of how to use this government database. I would almost recommend directly linking every page in the citation rather than a single citation through which all pages must be found. Not counting this against the review.
• 8: (lack access to 5, 6, and 7): Y
• 10: Y

I used the book version of Conferences at Cairo and Tehran. Switched the link to one of a scan of the book pages. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:02, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Outstanding. Thank you! ~ Pbritti (talk) 00:24, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Just a minor update: completion can be expected before 20 May, but any earlier than that is unlikely due to academic and familial considerations. ~ Pbritti (talk) 23:42, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

No worries. It often takes months just to find a reviewer. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:55, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

@Pbritti: Any progress? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 02:44, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

@Hawkeye7: Expect completion sometime today (Mountain Time). ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:51, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

@Pbritti: Any progress? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 11:09, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

• 23: Y
• 34: Y
• 47: Y
• 50: Y Lacked access to source
• 54: Y
• 64: Y Phrasing is very similar but acceptable
• 66: Y
• 90: Y A shame not many quotes are pulled from this source. They could color the article if used in textboxes.
• 97: Y Great use of statistics

NPOV

Y Article exceeds NPOV standards.

Conclusion

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   While the the lede reads somewhat overly vague at times, it succeeds in providing a generalized summary that is supported by the sourced information found within the article. Otherwise, he writing is tight and no typos or grammatical errors are evident.

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

   Exceptionally well-referenced. Superior in summary than some academic pieces on subject.

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   While the article might be construed as dry, one can only expect so much flair from such a topic lest it violate NPOV standards. Several instances find the article entering into specifics, but generally the deployments of unsummarized information and statistics are executed to demonstrate scale and unique characteristics.

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

   Very good

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

   True

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   First, I would like to thank Hawkeye7 for their patience throughout the process. Second, I must commend them for the completion of an excellent article absolutely worthy for elevation to Good Article status. This article was clearly written and was very useful for someone still learning the ropes of GA. As I am new to the process, if I fail to properly admit the article to GA status, I would like the support of other editors. Thanks! ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:21, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

   You've done it correctly. Thanks for your review. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:49, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Allied

Just a query on title - should these be called American rather than allied logistics? Other allied ie French or British isn't even mentioned in the article. Eastfarthingan (talk) 19:39, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

French logistics is covered. The whole Base 901 section is about it. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:46, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. Eastfarthingan (talk) 12:40, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Usage of the word "dearth"

Hello, Im curious on why the word dearth is used in this article as its a very uncommon word, especially on wikipedia, and may cause confusion to readers or may be seen as a typo of "Death" by passing editors. PerryPerryD Talk To Me 17:55, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

A check on Google ngrams indicates that it is not so uncommon. The word appears in several hundred articles, including the eponymous article, and articles as diverse as List of highest-certified singles in Australia, Royal Rainmaking Project, Open Door Series, Ashur-nirari IV, NASA Astronaut Group 6, The Rival Widows, Feeder (beekeeping), Beyond Bias and Barriers and Vagabonds Act 1597. It is up to the readers to learn English, which is part of our educational mission. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:50, 8 December 2022 (UTC)