Talk:Allied Masonic Degrees

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I think we need to find some official links, a logo, and add a history section. I think I can work on the latter part. MSJapan (talk) 16:22, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

America and England

Someone trying to make this article less US-centric has generalized American information to England, for which I have no basis. In America membership is by invitation to Royal Arch Masons, but is that also a requirement in England? I must mar the symmetry to avoid getting ahead of the facts. J S Ayer (talk) 23:10, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Grand Officers

No Masonic article contains this data, because it is too difficult to keep up-to-date, and generally, those individuals are not notable per WP standards. Even the English GMs are not notable as such; their notability is always through peerage. It is arguable that some jurisdictions are easy to maintain, and some are hard, but we need to apply rules consistently. For that reason, I have removed that information, but it has been returned to the article twice. MSJapan (talk) 00:40, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also note WP:BLPNAME, which likely applies in this case; the organizational information useful to the general reader does not suffer for the lack of personal information. MSJapan (talk) 01:14, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I have done some searching via google and cannot find sufficient refs per WP:PEOPLE to include this information. I've removed it again and it shouldn't be put back until some consensus is established. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:33, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was searching Wikipedia for other references to grand masters and found on Grand Master (Masonic) a ref that the Prince Edward, Duke of Kent is Grand Master of England and Wales and I found this citation. Strange. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 16:41, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You're going to have to explain what's strange. The UGLE GM is notable by peerage, not for being Grand Master - that's a footnote. He's also the nominal head, not the actual (meaning someone else runs the day-to-day operations). The GM pro tem doesn't have an article, as you may notice. MSJapan (talk) 16:48, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

His actual title is ProGM, the last one was notable, not only because he was Britain's richest Buddhist, and was involved with disputed silver family heirlooms, but he was also a nobleman, the current ProGM I believe is a Chartered Surveyor (so nothing exciting there then) Yummy Dunn (talk) 23:47, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh, thanks for clearing that up. It look to me like we had conflicting information. I was missing the fact that this is the AMD and not the main lodge and they have separate grand masters. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 19:29, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]