Talk:All the Right Wrongs

Genre war - rock and roll

Please note, this EXACT passage was added to User talk:Chasewc91 as an explanation to why putting rock and roll is misleading. Please note that they (Chasewc91) were not attempting to vandalise the page or insitgate a genre war, and was simply using misleading information from a credible source or (more likely) misinterpreting information from a credible source.

Hi, after looking at the numerous amount of edits in All the Right Wrongs, I have recently discovered a genre war in the edits, namely between Yourself, a number of unregitered users and I. We can all agree that the EP/Album falls into the genre category of Teen Pop because:

AMG correctly states this as a genre
Most listeners of the album can agree that this is Teen Pop
Most users of Wikipedia can agree that this is Teen Pop

However the main war seems to be going on with the fact that (as far as I can work out) you have put rock and roll as a secondary genre. Many editors, including myself, oppose this. Simply because the collection of songs on the EP (or any of the songs on the EP) do not sound like rock and roll as a musical genre.
From also what I could work out, you have added rock and roll because AMG mentions this in their review. Which at first glance would seem fair, as AMG is credible source. However AMG has a habit of mentioning musical genres that have nothing to do with the album as a whole. For example, AMG's review of Iron Maiden mentions (to some extent) Progressive Metal "There may be no better place to hear how both punk and prog rock informed the New Wave of British Heavy Metal...", "Maiden had all the creative ambition of a prog rock band", "the band's earliest progressive epic and still among its best".
AMG also mentioned punk rock in its review "sessions with Eve 6 and Plain White T's yielded enough punky fodder", which you haven't added to the album genre itself, because the album isn't punk rock. Added to that AMG also talks about rock and roll as more of a fashion/culture style rather than a musical genre. "After flirting with teen pop on her early recordings, Emily Osment underwent a rock & roll makeover". It is mainly referring to her attempt to break out from the Teen Pop-style music (though not a very good one). Simply put, the EP, does not correctly fit into the rock and roll musical genre, and is misleading. So unless you can find another credible source, as one source - which doesn't even mention any form of rock and roll as a musical genre - isn't enough. I am removing it.
tsunamishadow (talk) 19:58, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong, this user is removing information that was explicitly stated in Allmusic's review, because they don't want this album described as rock and roll. Chase wc ⁹¹ 22:07, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This album does not sound like rock and roll as a musical genre. I've already listened to the album and it's obviously a teen-pop album. Decodet (talk) 22:10, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"I listened to the album" cannot be used as a source. That is called original research. Chase wc ⁹¹ 02:10, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reference clearly says: Genre=pop rock, style=teen pop. That's all. No rock n roll in genre. Decodet (talk) 19:35, 22 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're only looking in one part of the page. "Rock and roll" is clearly mentioned in the actual review of the album. The genre "Pop/Rock" on Allmusic is combined pop and rock artists/albums/songs/etc., which is why that one isn't listed here. Chase wc ⁹¹ 00:52, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New article and cleanup January 2010

I think that the sections "Promotion" and "Emily Osment's Halloween Bash" should be moved to make a new article called All The Right Wrongs Tour, of course that is an assumption of what the name of the tour is, it might be something completely different. Anyway these sections are long, cluttered and organised, but still notable to make a new article with them. Someone also needs to clean up "Promotion" as it very untidy and not written in prose. I thought I should discuss this before I move it myself and people get upset. Please note down your views below. Thanks. If no one replies to this in one week then I will do it myself. tsunamishadow (talk) 22:16, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

US Spotify

idk where on the article i should post this but the EP has been removed from US Spotify. i can google it and go to another country's album page for it but all the songs are greyed out for US listeners. Danger Days Fabulous Killjoy (talk) 08:26 PM, September 07, 2010 —Preceding undated comment added 00:27, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]