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Title "All Russian " or "Anglo Russian"? (or perhaps both?)

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Was Arcos also known as the "Anglo"-Russian Cooperative society? This is how it is referred to in Handley Page Aircraft since 1907 by C.H. Barnes when it discusses Arcos Ltd negotiating the purchase of two Handley Page Hanley torpedo bombers in 1922-23.Nigel Ish (talk) 17:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"All-Russian" is correct, per the Trade Delegation's mag, cited in the footnotes. "All-Russian" is a translation from the Russian (I'll get this wrong but I'm too lazy to look up correct spelling) Vse-Rossiiskii and it refers to the superset, multi-national empire of "Russia" — which included Russia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Ukraine, Belorussia, etc. etc. — as opposed to just the nation of Russia proper, exclusive of the smaller nations on the periphery. Later on use of the name "Soviet Union" made "All-Russian" sort of superfluous and it was essentially dropped. It was a phrase used mostly in the early Soviet period, seen also in "All-Russian Communist Party" (VKP), "All-Russian Congress of Soviets," and so on.

Hope this helps. —Tim Davenport, Early American Marxism website, Corvallis, OR (USA). Carrite (talk) 20:42, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Story does not End Here

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The article is very interesting, but it alludes to the fact that Arcos ceased trading in 1927 after causing (what appears to be) the First "Cold War." This is not the case as the company is still very much in business according to Companies House, with the correct founding date of 1921. Also, I have mention of Arcos requesting a visit of delegates to Chance Brothers Ltd in Birmingham, in 1934, for which permission was granted. One assumes from this that the kerfuffle subsided and "normal" relations were resumed. Addiitonally, there are three court cases: Joseph Green v Arcos Ltd (1931), Hillas And Co. v Arcos Ltd (1932) and Arcos v Ranaason (1933) that prove the company was still operating. GlassyEye (talk) 15:46, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]