Talk:Alix, Duchess of Brittany

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Countess of Richmond

Was Alix Countess of Richmond? In The Charters of Duchess Constance of Brittany and Her Family (1171-1221), by Judith Everard and Michael Jones, there are charters made by both Alix (also called Alice in the book) and Peter of Dreux, and they both use the title comitissa/comes Richemundie.

I saw on the Earl of Richmond page that Alix's half-sister Eleanor had been styled Countess of Richmond from 1208 to 1219, when Peter of Dreux became Earl of Richmond. Eleanor's also called "Duchess of Brittany, Countess of Richmond" in Everard and Jones's book (p 164).

Yet some charters made by Alix and Peter using the title of Countess/Earl of Richmond are older: charter Ae5 dates back to July 1214, and charter Ae2 (dealing with the Earldom of Richmond) was made between 1203 and 1213, maybe before her marriage since Peter (who acted as a regent for her between their wedding and her death) isn't mentioned in it (see Everard and Jones, pp 169, 170, 173).

It might be more accurate to say that Eleanor was only titular Countess of Richmond (and even Duchess of Brittany, since John Lackland allowed her to use this title) Aziliz Breizh (talk) 15:04, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]