Talk:Alice Ormsby-Gore

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Julian Ormsby-Gore

When he died? In one side it says: "In 1974, aged 22, Ormsby Gore found her elder brother, Julian Ormsby Gore (33), dead in his apartment from gunshot wounds, an apparent suicide." But on the other side, it says also: "Ormsby Gore's father (William) David Ormsby Gore died in a car accident in 1985. He was succeeded firstly by his son Julian Ormsby Gore. who died in 1995, " So when he did die, in 1974 or in 1995? or there was another sibling and here has been a mistake? Thanks! 80.32.117.89 (talk) 18:12, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mistake it was - It was Francis who succeeded to their father's peerage in 1985, he lived until 2016, well past Alice's lifetime.Cloptonson (talk) 06:52, 29 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Coat of Arms?

The coat of arms section is probably all false. The heraldic authorities of the U.K. grant a coat of arms to a person, not to "a family" as the text under "Notes" states. The coat of arms pictured has no citation. Wouldn't it be on a lozenge rather than a shield, her being female? There's no mark for difference. This is simply her father's coat-of-arms without the Baron's coronet, not hers. Also, the text description includes crests and supporters. Does the daughter of a Baron get any crest and supporters? I don't think so. This is probably just another example of someone assuming that all descendants of nobles are some kind of noble. After the lifetime of a Commoner named "Winston Churchill" it should be well-known that this is not so.2600:1700:6759:B000:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6 (talk) 17:39, 1 June 2023 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson[reply]

Exactly so. This wouldn't be so irksome if not for the heading "Coat of arms of Alice Ormsby-Gore", which, as you're entirely correct in stating, they most certainly are not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.24.239.127 (talk) 03:54, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]