Talk:Alice Herz-Sommer

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Please consider adding this link to an in depth video of Alice Herz-Sommer telling her life story. The video is freely available on the Web of Stories website (http://webofstories.com): Alice Herz-Sommer telling her life story at Web of Stories Fitzrovia calling (talk) 17:17, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like the link is to copyrighted material taken and re-used. Span (talk) 17:23, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This allegation is unjust and unsupported. Web of Stories has the copyright to the video recordings that are available on the Web of Stories website and does not 're-use' other material. Fitzrovia calling (talk) 15:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It was not an allegation. I said it looked like re-used material. If it is not, then great. Span (talk) 16:33, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not Czech

The description is misleading. She is Jewish, not Czech. We could get into the debates on what constitutes a Jew versus a Czech, or Czech-Jew or Jewish Czech, but this is barely mentioned in the article. Saying that she is a Holocaust survivor is vague because it implies that all in the Holocaust were Jewish. This needs to be more explicit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.12.220.8 (talk) 00:19, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

She was born in Czechoslovakia, that makes her Czech. She is also British and Jewish. There is no contradiction in these three at all. The article is not about nationalistic/ethic/religious labels, why would it be mentioned? In no way is her history as a Holocaust survior vague in the article. There is significant detail given. Nothing about the phrase 'Holocaust survivor' suggest that all in the Holocaust were Jewish. The article is not about the Holocaust. The article is linked. Span (talk) 00:36, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

She was not born in Czechoslovakia, which did not exist when she was born. She was no more Czechoslovakian than British or Israeli, which is why this statement in the introduction is misleading. In case there is no objection, I will change "former Czechoslovakia" into Bohemia, which is correct without any doubt. --KnightMove (talk) 08:06, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It would be interesting to know what language Sommer considered her mother tongue. Our Franz Kafka entry notes that in that era "the division between Czech- and German-speaking people was a tangible reality" in Prague. (Kafka, a Jew born in 1883, spoke and wrote in German. The present article says Sommer met him in her home — which may indicate she spoke German.) Sca (talk) 15:44, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

She was Austrian by Birth. German speaking, easy to find out when you listen to her in interviews. So it should say "German speaking Austrian" macjena (talk) 17:59, 24 February 2014

The part of Austria she was born in – Prague – became Czechoslovakia after World War One. So, although born in Austria, she then became a German-speaking Czechoslovak. Headhitter (talk) 22:32, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Unlike Kafka she was able to speak good Czech. She speaks Czech in documentary film Sedm světel – Seven lights (here online, but maybe not available for IPs outside the Czech Republic). ~~Not clear which language was her native.~~ It is stated (but not referenced) in the Czech language article that she was born into a German-speking family and that she learnt Czech, German, Hebrew, Latin, French and English. Her mother tongue was probably German, but she might be bilingual in Prague. Gumruch (talk) 20:52, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Section blanking

Please do not keep blanking sections. Whether books or film are authorised or not has no bearing at all on whether Wikipedia lists them. WP is an encyclopaedia not a personal web space; the articles are not here for promotion, hagiography nor to spin biography. For context see Diana, Princess of Wales, Barack Obama, Albert Speer. Please also note that conflict of interest editing is strongly discouraged. Family and friends are not regarded as neutral contributors, whether editing as logged on registered editors or not. Span (talk) 22:52, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Twin sister

What happened to her twin sister? Headhitter (talk) 13:02, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

She settled in Israel, where Herz met her after the war. Span (talk) 02:59, 25 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable sources

Please respect the need for iron hard sources for biographies of living people. WP is not a news service. Span (talk) 19:20, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Think you should maybe do a Google News search mate, the wider media (Washington Post, ABC) have it now. Check for secondary reliable sources first before scrubbing things off. It preserves information. --Jkaharper (talk) 19:28, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

They are all coming online now - not at the time of writing the above. It is breaking news. Proper sources are required for adding the details of someone's death, as I'm sure you can appreciate. Span (talk) 19:56, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Husband

Her husband Leopold cannot have died in 1944 if his death happened six weeks before the liberation of Dachau, since this concentration camp was only liberated in April 1945. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.159.3.95 (talk) 15:26, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

1944 was unsourced. I have removed it. Anna (talk) 19:39, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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