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A fact from Ali Janbulad appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 21 August 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Duke of Tuscany allied with Ali Janbulad, the Kurdish chief and rebel governor of Aleppo, to destroy the Ottoman Empire and establish Ali as "Prince of the Kingdom of Syria"?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/August. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ali Janbulad.

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:19, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The Duke of Tuscany, who formed a military alliance with Ali Janbulad

... that the Duke of Tuscany (pictured) allied with Ali Janbulad, the Kurdish chief and rebel governor of Aleppo, to destroy the Ottoman Empire and establish Ali as "Prince of the Kingdom of Syria"? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
- ALT1:... ~~that the Kurdish tribal chief Ali Janbulad launched a revolt against the Ottomans from Aleppo to avenge the execution of his uncle by Grand Vizier Sinan Pasha?~~ Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Reviewed: Neccio

Moved to mainspace by Al Ameer son (talk). Self-nominated at 18:52, 27 July 2020 (UTC).[reply]

It has been over a week since this was nominated and a QPQ is not completed yet. Please take care of this promptly. Flibirigit (talk) 02:09, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

QPQ done. —Al Ameer (talk) 02:57, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for submitting a QPQ. A full review is still needed here. Flibirigit (talk) 03:13, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewing... ... starting now Flibirigit (talk) 01:38, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing: - ?
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - ?
Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article was moved to mainspace on July 22 and nominated within time. Length is adequate. Article appears neutral in tone. No plagiarism issues detected. QPQ requirement is complete. All images in the article are freely licensed on the commons. The nominated photo for ALT0 is clear at a low resolution and enhances the hook. ALT0 is interesting, just under 200 characters, verified by the cited source, but the citation is at the end of a very, very long run-on sentence. I suggest breaking up the sentence to put the citation closer to the hook. ALT1 is reasonably interesting, but I cannot find where it is cited in the article. I think I am looking for when Ahmed was killed? Did I miss it somewhere? Lastly, there are couple instances of direct quotes that need a citation directly after sentence which contains them. Overall the article is very well written and will pass with minor adjustments. Thanks. Flibirigit (talk) 02:06, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Flibirigit: Making the improvements, will update you here when I am finished. Thank you for taking the time to review this article. Al Ameer (talk) 02:20, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, whenever you're ready. No rush. Flibirigit (talk) 04:20, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Flibirigit: The run-on was broken up and citations have been added immediately after all quotations. The original hook ("ALT0") is my preference anyway, we could just scrap ALT1. --Al Ameer (talk) 21:59, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT0 is approved, it is interesting, properly mentioned and cited inline and verified. ALT1 has been struck as per comments above. Nomination now meets all sourcing and other DYK criteria. Flibirigit (talk) 00:37, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reason for rebellion

In the lead of the article it currently states: "His rebellion, launched to avenge the execution of his uncle Huseyn ibn Janbulad by Grand Vizier Sinan Pasha in 1605, gained currency among ..." I am somewhat confused by this statement, as Grand Vizier Sinan Pasha already died in 1596. Is there any explanation for this? Crispulop (talk) 22:24, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Crispulop: I will look into the sources on Monday and update you here; he may be a different Sinan or I may have the wrong name altogether. —Al Ameer (talk) 03:48, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Crispulop: Never mind about Monday, it was Cığalazade Yusuf Sinan Pasha. He had been a grand vizier for a very short period, but in 1605 he was a general leading the Ottomans on the Safavid front. —Al Ameer (talk) 04:25, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]