Talk:Aliʻi nui of Oahu

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Numbering of ali'i 'aimoku

It's bad enough the labeling of these various ali'is have been done, but numbering is not accurate. You've omitted other ali'i that came before Kumuhonua. It's not like once upon a time there was no one then all of a sudden came Kumuhonua. You mentioned Maweke which means you have some clue about the other chiefs around their time, so why haven't you mentioned them as well? Mamoahina (talk) 06:53, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Change it then.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:21, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The concept of a list seems problematic since we are too dependent on royal ark a unreliable source.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 05:23, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mamoahina, this appears to have been made as a list article. It doesn't have to be. We can recreate this article in prose and go through the known genealogy chants, we can alter the title and even the scope if the mainstream, academic sources are not being adhered to. My suggestion is to do a mix of both and lose the numbering if it is offensive, however it is simple math and many articles on Hawaiian ruler seem to follow this. Some of the oral chants differ and tradition going back so far is not possible to know what dialect or version of the Hawaiian language was used and what titles they may have had accept by what the chants say and what the opinion of reliable sources claim but if there is a start point and the content is considered accurate, a Wikipedian is going to want to make a list. It is something some editors like to do as we have "List articles" and guidelines for them can be found at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lists.--Mark Miller (talk) 20:29, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]