Talk:Algerian mandole

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French-English interlanguage confusion

There are two different instruments tasked about in this article. One is the original instrument which in English is mandola. The other mandole is a newer instrument that had no established English word, what could be called the Algerian mandola.

That appears to be a problem in French too, because the word "mandole" is French for what we call a mandola and also for this new instrument. In the French sources they call both instruments "mandole", not differentiating between them except through context. The French Wikipedia tries, using "mandole Algérian" and "Mandole ténor/alto".

Whoever started this English article decided to name the new Algerian instrument "mandole", which works in English since that isn't a word. I'm following suit and using the following pattern until someone tries to convince me otherwise: Mandole or Algerian mandola for the new instrument, mandola for the older instrument. Also the words "mandol" and "mondol" for the newer instrument.Jacqke (talk) 19:27, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mandole vs Mandolute

Both the mandole and the mandolute come from Algeria. According to the German Mandolaute article, the instrument is also called mandol, which is what sources call the mandole. The mandolute also has frets to allow quarter tones, an available mandole feature. Both are flatback, the same size. Not putting all this into an article, but readers should be aware that the sources in English make it difficult to tell these apart.Jacqke (talk) 20:00, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to move all parts of article dealing with North-African lute

The following came from the article mandolute. It is only supported by one source (if that is what the external links were); I propose this material be moved to the Mandole article, if any of it can be sourced.Jacqke (talk) 00:57, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A Mandolute is a North African instrument derived from the more traditional Oud. It is a fretted string instrument unlike the oud, sometimes called a mandoluth (French) or mondol (Morocco, Algeria). It is slightly bigger than the mandola. It combines a traditional oud string format with five courses (pairs) of metal strings, resulting in an instrument similar to a mandocello or flat-backed liuto cantabile.

It may be confused with the mandole.

==External links==

The only part of this moved material that can be sourced it the application of the name mandolute to the instrument played by Rachid Taha and Hakim Hamadouche. The name isn't in widespread use and where it is used, Wikipedia seems to be the source of using that name. I am moving this material to the Algerian mandole article.Jacqke (talk) 14:16, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]