Talk:Alfred Gilbert

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daughter Caprina Fahey

One of his daughters was a notable suffragette, as I am drafting article it is currently a redlink. Any information is being sought for her article and also for the Norfolk Museums (see reference within article). Kaybeesquared (talk) 20:27, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

now at Caprina Fahey Mujinga (talk) 10:57, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Miscitation from the ODNB regarding the Shaftesbury Memorial Fountain

The 'Career: Creative period' section of this article includes this sentence: "It was only because he had been experimenting with different techniques that he was able to cast aluminium, a then new material which he used to create the statue of Anteros which topped the sculpture."

The citation given in support of this statement is the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. However, the ODNB article on Gilbert says: "When in the later 1880s it became possible to cast aluminium cheaply, he was the first artist to employ this new alloy to create the soaring figure of Eros—the light, silvery, buoyant nude symbolic of selfless love which crowns his next important sculptural commission, the Shaftesbury memorial in Piccadilly Circus, London, unveiled in 1893." That article makes no mention of Anteros (though it does say that "the nude figure of Eros was mistaken for Cupid" in the early years of the statue's existence).

The ODNB article may be wrong to insist that the figure is Eros, but isn't it nevertheless inappropriate to miscite it in the way that's been done here? If there's a scholarly work that makes it clear the statue represents Anteros rather than Eros, I believe it would be preferable to cite it instead of the ODNB. Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any such work, as all the academic publications I've consulted say the figure is Eros, though a couple acknowledge that Gilbert once said the figure was Anteros, among several conflicting statements he made on the subject some years after the sculpture's installation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Russ London (talk • contribs) 15:36, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

I see your point. The next sentence in the text does give a reference for the statue being Anteros. Our article Shaftesbury Memorial Fountain seems to think it is Anteros as well. We could make a note on the confusion, but it's perhaps easier just to change "a then new material which he used to create the statue of Anteros which topped the sculpture" to "a then new material which he used to create the statue which topped the sculpture". I'll do that now. Mujinga (talk) 16:28, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your attentive response.

Russ London (talk) 22:24, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

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