Talk:Alfred Durlacher

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Year of birth

The article say he was born 1818, but The Bicentennial Dictionary of Western Australians says 30.5.1828.^[1] This needs checking - as does "...equipped with a sound education" (at 10 years old?), because Bicentennial Dictionary also has him arriving on Shepherd in 1838.

Note also that the Bicentennial Dictionary I'm looking at was "First published in 1988" (see full cite below), whereas the article says 1983.

https://www.daao.org.au/bio/alfred-durlacher/ refers to an Alfred Durlacher "Artist (Carver)" born 1828 - but the full biography from that site then describes him similarly to our article. This ref is the source of Beth Frayne's Toodyay Resident Magistrates, cited by Alfred Durlacher.

[1] says he was aged 48 when he died in 1869 - implying he was born in 1821!

Mitch Ames (talk) 12:01, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Rica Erickson (1988). The Bicentennial Dictionary of Western Australians: pre-1829 – 1888. Vol. 2 D-J. University of Western Australia Press. p. 924. ISBN 0 85564 273 4.

"Note also that the Bicentennial Dictionary I'm looking at was "First published in 1988" (see full cite below), whereas the article says 1983."
I see this discrepancy on other articles also. Can we get the full cite for the 1983 version? It seems a bit odd that a "Bicentennial Dictionary" should be (c)1983 - five years before the Australian Bicentenary. (I have scan of the title page and publish details for the 1988 version which I can e-mail for comparison if needs be. The books are available in the Bull Creek library if anyone wants to check.) Mitch Ames (talk) 12:28, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

definitely 1818 Gnan garra 12:22, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We need (an inline cite to) a specific reference for this. I've explicitly noted the discrepancy, but the article needs more that "we think this reference is wrong". Mitch Ames (talk) 02:59, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Marcellouswp (talk) 05:48, 15 January 2021 (UTC)Suggest that the correct date of birth is 1821 and that Alfred Durlacher was the son of Lewis Durlacher (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Durlacher and https://www.oxforddnb.com/view/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-50983 which I have not read)Alfred Durlacher's son who also shot himself (by accident, it says) was called Lewis https://www.monumentaustralia.org.au/themes/people/tragedy/display/60386-lewis-durlacher- A carried-forward given name seems like more than a coincidence. Another son was John Slade Durlacher: (https://slwa.wa.gov.au/treasures/durlacher/index.htm ) who probably also deserves his own entry as his book (see that link) has relatively recently been published and is a fascinating record of colonial observations of the indigenous peoples of that part of WA. Leave it up to others to follow this through as am not really au fait with the procedure.[reply]

Marcellouswp (talk) 16:11, 15 January 2021 (UTC)Further reference: circumcision record. Abraham b Juda DURLETSCHER (DURLACHER) from Burlington St circumcised on 7/6/1821. Can only be Alfred given as Lewis Durlacher's eldest son as he married in 1820. Other sources give this as dob of A b Juda eldest son of Lewis, probably based on this record. Suggest that the 30 May date is correct. See https://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/susser/myersolomoncircreg.htm no 892.[reply]

Lynton Convict Depot

According to the article "In December 1865 Durlacher was transferred to Geraldton ... Another of his duties was to oversee the establishment of the new Lynton Convict Depot." (Robyn Taylor's original wording was "... the new Convict Hiring Depot at Lynton".) However, according to the Lynton Convict Depot article Lynton was established in May 1853 and closed in 1857. Was there a second depot established at Lynton? Neither Lynton Convict Depot nor Lynton, Western Australia mention it. Mitch Ames (talk) 08:50, 22 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Rica Erickson (1988). The Bicentennial Dictionary of Western Australians: pre-1829 – 1888. Vol. 2 D-J. University of Western Australia Press. p. 924. ISBN 0 85564 273 4.

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